(sportime.gr) V-Span to discuss future with Morey today

If y'all don't know Larisa is the Arkansas of Greece that is why Span is kind of goofy

 

Isn't that the intimation? If your argument is that VSpan as a first or second-year NBA player can put up the same numbers as Manu and Parker, then wouldn't he be able to grow into that calliber of player in four or five seasons given the similarities you all have cited over and over?

 

Well that is the hope for sure. But my whole point has always been until he gets on the court to find out, we just don't know.

What we do know about the PG position is that Rafer is not the long or short term answer. So, I was hoping that JVG would try V-Span in that role with consistent minutes for the year to find out if he is the answer, as I hope and think he will be....

And now after one whole year, Morey goes into this off season still knowing that Rafer is not the answer, but not really having much data on V-Span at the position that he translates to in the NBA.

I have contended all year long that this team as it is structured is still 1 to 2 players away, and that they should grow this year, make the playoffs and find out if V-Span, Snyder and Novak are going to be players for us in the future, if not.....find some that are......

But after one full year with all 3, all the data that has been collected is incomplete and I believe Morey goes into this offseason with a flawed perception of the team and it's compliment of players.

Which, IMHO, wasted a year of Yao and Tmac's careers........we still don't know if V-Span can play PG or will totally develop into one....but if he had played for most of the year at the backup PG position we would have a better idea.

IMO, JVG wasted a year of development on our potential championship team by wearing out the starters and not developing some of the young players.

DD

 

maybe i am an allstar waiting to happen! Sure, in practice i might stink, but how do we know unless im on the court during a real game?

 

Show us where it says V-Span was bad in practice....link please.

DD

 

show us where your mysterious "adjustments" make the team win...

but i didnt even mention v-mac. i was talking about myself

 

What happened to your statements that he was as good as Tony Parker and was more NBA ready than Cassell as a rookie? Those were not "wait and see" statements, they were "facts" to you. Stick to your guns, DaDa.

As a reminder you also said that he only had high turnovers because he wasn't comfortable with his teammates and vice-versa...ignoring the fact that he had high turnovers in Europe his whole career as well.

As a further reminder, I am not a hater and want him to do well and think he probably should have played more but I don't need to gloss over his flaws to want him to do well.

Additionally - Amel - his defense was at times good but he was also horrible on many nights. His team defense was slow to the spot and matador like. One on one he is aggressive, no doubt, and the team certainly needs aggression wherever they can get it.

 

Exactly. We don't know. My argument is that too often there is this argument with tremendous certainty that this guy is going to turn into the next great discovery everyone missed. All I'm saying is that the odds are actually FAR greater the opposite is true.

Like I said, I HOPE VSpan becomes a great player and is able to contribute for the Rockets. But, there is an awful lot of hyperbole when it comes to him around here. The comparison to Parker and Ginobilli is a bad one, IMO.

A better comparison would be a less athletic Antonio Daniels or a better passing Eric Snow. I don't picture VSpan's ceiling as Tony Parker or Steve Nash. I think of it more as Andre Miller. That makes more sense based on his skill set. But, no one wants to talk about a guy who for his career might average 8 points and 5 assists - very respectable numbers for an NBA point guard who is a role player most of his career, which is more likely for VSpan than these high aspirations we seem to have set for him.

I think it is a disservice to the player and the fans to make him out to be something he very likely is not, but fans love to build guys up and then blow them out of the water I guess.

 

http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1387/spanoulis_has_best_practice_of_the_year/

 

Being able to hussle and playing good defense is not the same thing. He got beat constantly by bigger and quicker SCRUBS that were also playing in garbage time. But that also comes from not being on the floor. I agree we should play him more and he will get better.

 

Are we as a clooective message board the same ones ready to run raefer out of town because he is a penetrating undersized point guard that can't shoot? And he doesnt even turn the ball over as much as vspan. Unless we change coaches and change systems, were gonna need him to shoot with consistency because with Yao and Tmac the shots are gonna be there.

 

Collective my bad

 

so is there any decent info in this thread outside of the first page or two or is this another DaDa vspan pissing contest?

 

I've stated my opinion on this situation from V-Span's perspective, but this is the biggest overall problem. We always knew Alston wasn't going to do well, and now we have a big question mark at the point guard position. We are no closer to finding out the answers than at the beginning of the season, which is a big big big problem for Morey in this critical offseason.

Is V-Span a future starter?
Is V-Span a future rotation player?
Is V-Span a starter for next year?
Is V-Span a rotation player next year?
Is Lucas a future rotation player?
Is Lucas a rotation player next year?
Do we need to sign a starter at point guard this offseason?
Do we need to sign a rotation player at point guard this offseason?

We know nothing.

 

LOL, you honestly don't know that Lucas is not a future NBA contributor? I don't know in the technical sense.....but I have a pretty good idea. I don't Spanoulis has historically shown that he's a great fit at PG at the NBA level either - he certainly didn't show it this year.

 

Ouch.

 

What ? One of Van Gundy's stooges says he has not been very good in practice.......

I can understand his frustration, time will tell who is right.

DD

 

Coming into the league he was not highly rated than Tony Parker....and I was arguing with Sam Fisher about whether or not World competition makes him more NBA ready than the ACC.

I still feel the same today as I did then.

DD

 

and you look like an even bigger idiot today for saying that he was more NBA ready than Sam Cassell coming out of college.

He was less NBA ready than Eddie Griffin -mentally or physically. Even Griffin didn't start melting down till at least after his rookie season. Spanoulis started blabbing about he was T-mac a few month in. Simply pathetic.