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(sportime.gr) V-Span to discuss future with Morey today

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by alex_jr, May 9, 2007.

  1. Blake

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    To be fair, he did play out of position sometimes. But also, in a lot of games (that he actually played in) he and JL3 rotated in bringing the ball up/playing the 1.
     
  2. alex_jr

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    Apologies for not being clearer....for me, when i said he played out of position i meant more that he was asked to play as a spot-up shooter. I'm not referring to his ball handling ... Which btw was pretty good
     
  3. Blake

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    gotcha. I agree he was a bad fit for the JVG offense. If we get a new coach, perhaps his penetration-game will work. But if he wants to be a good NBA player, he does need to work on his shot quite a bit. (Hopefully he does :cool: )
     
  4. alex_jr

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    Fair enough, I was surprised by his shooting this year and I think a lot of it was because he wasn't comfortable enough and too stressed about being benched. He doesnt have NBA range (his euro-range 3s are respectable) but he can shoot much better than he did this year
     
  5. StupidMoniker

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    As long as Yao is on this team, guards are going to need to be able to hit open shots 18' and out. If V-SPAN can't learn to do that (I think he can, and have said many times that I expect he will be better next season) then he doesn't have a future with this team.
     
  6. EssTooKayTD

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    Thing is, every player has the same pressure when they come to the NBA. You don't at least show some more promise in the minutes you are given, don't expect too many more minutes. Now of course, Yao's injury really didn't help his situation as JVG would be trying to salvage a season.

    Spanoulis only showed a few plays where he showed some promise on an NBA court. The rest of the time he was turning the ball over, missing shots, or looking lost. I am not trying to hate, and I hope he gets more opportunities.
    In short, during his playing time, he has had more negatives than positives. That sucks for VSpan, but you also can't blame JVG for not playing the guy.
     
  7. Luffy1

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    There was no bigger travesty this year than JVG's treatment of Vspan. If Vspan played this year and in the playoffs, the rockets beat the jazz.
     
  8. Sishir Chang

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    Span come back! Span come back!

    In the Steve Kerr article about the Rox he mentioned that what the Rox really need is a guard that can get to the rim and up and down the court. To me that sounds like a certain Greek guard sitting at the end of the bench.
     
  9. alex_jr

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    I agree...that's why I said I was surprised. I did expect him to shoot better, I just think that JVGs treatment/demands added to his confusion. I also agree that Yao's injury didnt help.

    And I never said he was brilliant in his PT but I do think he showed he could help if the offensive scheme was more flexible. That lack of flexibility is what I blame on JVG and what I think is responsible for the rockets first round exit. It worked (quite well) through the season leading to the 52 wins but that lack of flexibility IS the reason why you'll lose a 7-game series. That's when you have to make adjustments and when the opposing team has the opportunity to figure you out.
     
  10. EssTooKayTD

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    I definitely agree with you there. I think JVG is a good coach. In my opinion, he's slow to adjust. And that keeps him from being great. But as I've said in other posts, I think our 1st round exit is on everyone's shoulders. Coaches and players. It's truly a shame that we didn't even have ONE game in that series that resembled what we look like when we actually play well. THAT to me was the disappointing part aside from the obvious losing of the series.
     
  11. alex_jr

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    I agree... Not playing as well as they have done in the season was the players' part of the fault. JVG's part was standing there hoping they would...
     
  12. rennaisnz24

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    I don't think he is the missin guard we need. If we get someone to replace alston, we can have rafer come of the bench. V-Span is not good of the ball.
     
  13. Jacob Kell

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    Since I'm Greek, let me give some more info about Spanoulis status....

    The part mentioned earlier about the discussion between Rockets management and Spanoulis about his future at Houston is 100% true. V-span asked them about the JVG situation....it is perfectly clear that if JVG stays, Spanoulis leaves....
    Greek newspapers and media articles clarify that if JVG steps down, V-span MIGHT think about staying...MIGHT. 2 days before the final 4 four in Athens, Panathinaikos's assistant was interviewed by a famous reporter...He asked him about team's targets for the summer... He didn't make any comment about Billy at that time..so everyone here figured out that Spanoulis probably will stay at Houston

    That changed a couple of days ago...2 days after the big win of Panathinaikos against CSKA, Panathinaikos head coach, Zeliko Obradovic appeared as a guest at Supersport Channel(very famous sport channel)...
    The 2 reporters persistently tried to find out about the possibillity of Billy joining the Greek team once more...
    His answer was: <<Well, he will be here in a couple of days for vacations...why don't you ask him??>> and then mischievously smiled.
    This moment was followed by comments like <<we always treat Billy as a child of us>> or <<We will do our best to bring him back home>>


    The strange thing about all this???This interview took place after the first discussion of Billy and Morey/CD..probably he didn't get enough assurance..who knows.If you want my opinion from what I heard so far:

    60% possibillity Billy signs back to Panathinaikos
    40% Billy stays
     
  14. Amel

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    thanks for the info
     
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    Would be a real damn shame if Vspan went back to greece. However, I wouldn't blame him cause JVG treated him like dirt.
     
  16. Jacob Kell

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    Oh, the comments are missing. Sorry about that.

    Panathinaikos coach answered : Billy is coming home in a few days for vacation, why don't you ask him???
    And after that, well he was told about the discussions between Spanoulis and Morey he said : Billy is our child, and we will do our best to bring him back home...

    And something new... i just spoke on the phone with a friend of mine and he told me that Panathinaikos consider to buy out his contract if that is possible
     
  17. Jeff

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    I will say this...if Span thinks it will get any easier even with a different coach, he misunderstands the NBA or he thinks he is better than he really is.

    No offense to the guy, but players have gone through MUCH worse and come out the other side better for it. I'm not a big fan of guys who have no track record in the NBA crying for playing time in their rookie seasons.
     
  18. Luffy1

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    How is he supposed to get a track record in the nba if he doesn't get a chance to play? That is the JVG mentality and why he only plays proven nba players and doesn't develop any talent.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    OK, I disagree with this, it is his career he is talking about, let's just step back and think for a moment.

    What if Billy was promised playing time by management, and JVG ignored it and buried him on the bench.

    Wouldn't you be pissed off too? Wouldn't you want to know things were going to change.

    And it would be a LOT better under a different coach, the new coach may be one that can actually utilize ALL a players strengths instead of asking them to fill a roll in an outdated system.

    The one thing I am very hopeful of is that the Rockets hold all the cards.....he can not play anywhere for the next 2 years but in Houston.

    Unless the Rockets let him go, and if he is as valuable an asset as we think he is, he will just have to get on the court in Houston.

    DD

    PS. If a buyout did happen, I think he would still count against the cap next year so all Houston would save is money...unless there is a date the buyout could happen where next year's moneys don't count yet.
     
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  20. GermanRoxFan

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    if spanoulis really thinks that jvg is the reason that he hasn't conributed anything in the nba thus far than he should go to where he belongs. back to greece that is.

    man, stop the crying, work on your game and earn your playing time. what a loser if he prefers playing in europe over working his way into the rotation of an nba team. i won't miss him.
     

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