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[Official] Trade Proposal for Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by snowmt01, May 7, 2007.

  1. entirelydave

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    i'm no the lets move yao boat. maybe he can get us 20/10, but there are so many other faults that he has that just don't do it for me.
     
  2. rdsgonzo13

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    So in the yrs Howard was scoring 18 ppg was he a stud?

    Yao may score 20 and grab 10, but he does not get key rebounds in traffic. His #'s are inflated by playing alongside very weak rebounding PF's besides Hayes who doesnt get that many minutes.

    Yao is a turnover machine offensively. Before someone responds about Hakeem getting similar # of TO's, Hakeem probably got double or 2.5 X the touches that Yao did because half the time we run our offense through TMac and Yao plays less minuts than Hakeem too.

    Yao is mediocre defensively. We saw Boozer KILL him this entire series. Against GS, who does he match up with? Who does he guard on the Suns? Smart teams in playoff series will kill Houston in the pick n roll game by using Yao's man to set the pick, just like teams did with Shaq. Yao's lack of footspeed really exposed here and is why Boozer got so many wide open 15 foot jumpers of the Jazz PnR.

    It's painful to admit, but Yao is simply a very overrated player. His impact on the game does not match his stats. If it did, we wouldnt have gone 20-12 without him. He is absolutely not an NBA Superstar when you consider an overall floor game (Bball IQ, Passing, defense, rebounding, intangibles, etc). He's a tall 7'6" guy who's an incredible FT shooter and solid scorer. Not a complete player.
     
  3. mitbbs

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    Amare Stoudemire put 37 points per game on Tim Duncan in five games playoff two years ago, and do you think TD is mediocre defensively? :eek:
     
  4. TMac#1

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    I love Yao, but he holds this team back. He makes so many mistakes, so many turnovers, he can't hold on to the ball, can't hold on to passes, his reflexes are unbeliveably slow, and every time he gets the ball, it is a green light for teams just to attack him and steal the ball away. He is a very bad rebounder, he just tips the ball around instead of grabbing it and pulling it down with authority, and he is too slow to chase down any loose balls, the only rebounds he gets are the ones that just fall right into his hands. He doesn't finish with authority. He is not a bad player, he scored 25 points a game, but if you could get some team to give up a king's ransom, you do it for a player that can only do one thing, score from 10 feet in 1 on 1.

    Yao Ming and Luther Head and Juwan for KG, Mike James and the #1 pick or Randy Foye.
     
  5. ritou

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    Trading Yao is the most ridiculous idea for Rockets.
     
  6. zhao1109

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    YAO sure had very disppointed series. But I feel JVG ask him too much: on the offensive side, he is the axis of the half-court, he had to shoot the ball 25 times per game, had to make many high post PnR for our useless guards, had to fight the position deep enough.

    On the D side, he had to defend JAZZ's best player, he had to defend many PnR on him, chasing the guard, help weak side.

    This is too much for him...
     
  7. ikfit

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    I like this idea. Yao, rafer, battier, Hayes for Howard, Hill, Tokg... and then Orlando trade to get SF3, Cat, Cato.... very interesting.
     
  8. ximen

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    It's interesting to see so many Yao hatings surfacing after the lose. A few days ago it was T-Mac, now it's Yao's turn. I hate Utah, but I have to say they are a better team with a much better headcoach, their winning is convincible. You couldn't blame the lose on Yao with ignoring all those Rockets defects. Without Yao, the serie may end at 2-4 or 1-4.

    Give Sloan credit, he found the smartest way to deal with Yao after the initial two games, and he happened to have enough weapons like Boozer/Okur combination and also a recovering shot-block player Ak47. JVG was outcoached badly, and partially because of the roster defects and bad mismatch.

    Trading Yao now is easy, there has 29 teams waiting there, and as a Yao fan, I don't have any difficulty to see Yao play for any of them. How about we suggest Utah to trade Yao for Boozer? But I dislike these trading proposals on the name of championship contending. Man, you can't get champion as simple as a couple of tradings, which team will be dumb enough to give up their own championship piece? The only person I will do the trading for that purpose is a few years back Shaq. Even you get back another all-star, you still need to face roster problem, the only important player in this team by that standard is a healthy and aggresive T-Mac, our opponent sends us a half and more championship roster for Yao? why should they do that?
     
  9. big11

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    Yao for KG is a terrible deal IMH. But if we can get Yao + whoever for Shaq, now that's great deal. Rox will be guaranteed to win a title next year! Get it done already.
     
  10. lalala902102001

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    Yao Ming and Juwon Howard to Chicago for Luol Deng, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Wallace, Thabo Safalosha, and Chicago's No.1 pick this year (via NY, a top seven pick).

    Our New lineup:

    C Ben Wallace
    PF Shane Battier
    SF Luol Deng
    SG Tracy McGrady
    PG Kirk Hinrich
     
  11. waterflea

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    As Steve Kerr wrote in his Yahoo article, it is because the Rockets role players are incapable of making plays and shots that leaves absolutely no margin for our two stars to make any mistakes or have an off-night to win.
    I totally agree with him. Everybody, includes Dream, MJ will make mistakes and have offnights. We just need some role players step up occasionally to win, but I see none so far.
    So I don't see any point in these meaningless Yao-bashing or TMac-bashing threads.
     
  12. ximen

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    Exactly, to some degree the game result was decided by our role players's performance rather than that of our superstars. If our outside 3 pointer fire is on, we can match with any team in these league, otherwise one of our two stars struggled, we have to wish Utah also makes mistake, unfortunately in game 7, neither of the two things happened.
     
  13. rocketgo

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    It's not Yao's fault, it's the team's fault.
    JVG is not a good offensive coach, he hates VSpan, if he gives VSpan more chance, VSpan will be better than Williams, Rafer will never be a good starter PG.
    Also, we need a better PF, JHO was terrible in game 7, he couldn't shoot those open jumpers. Hayes is too short, and you can't expect too much on a starter PF whose salary is only $600,000 per year.
    T-Mac and Yao are not super stars like TD or Nash IMO, but they palyer OK games in the series. I still think too many rox's fans were over optimistic before the series and after game 2, Jazz is a very good team, no super stars, but also there starters are stars.
    If we find a better coach, play good offense, keep our defense, train V-Span and let him be our starter PG gradually, get a decent PF, rox will be a true contender.
     
  14. WNBA

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    Alright, they played an "OK " series .

    What's next?

    Yeah, I remember.

    [LOOP]
    It was a good loss.

    The shots were good. The ball just did not fall and it will fall in future. (lame excuse)
    need more effort, more change, more heart (blank promise).
    blame bench, blame coach, blame audience, blame Ben Laden (escape).

    More "good" losses.

    [/LOOP]

    In Chinese, this kind of loser is called A Q.
     
  15. olliez

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    Hey r****d, get a life

    ;)
     
  16. olliez

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    Stick that "official" up to your arse

    ;)
     
  17. olliez

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    I concur

    ;)
     
  18. olliez

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    Get a life

    :D
     
  19. olliez

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    Like your name suggests: dream on

    :D
     
  20. olliez

    olliez Member

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    I 2nd

    :)
     

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