Have you watched Kandi this past year at all??? Good Lord, his game is bad. Seriously, I am not going to say Cato is head and shoulders above Kandi....but watch the boy play. He is bad, slow, cannot run the floor....plays tentative. No denial here my friend....if it makes you feel better, I would rather have Will Perdue in the middle. OK, maybe not. ------------------ HOOP-T ------------------
i saw a few clipper games and he looked fine running down the floor. If you saw the schick rookie game during the all-star break he looked great running down the floor he had alot points in transition. He's not going to do the spectacular dunks cato does but he is a more effective center in my poinion.
Dice- you said that most GM's would like to have Kandi over Cato. Um... then why would the Clippers love to take Cato for Kandi, yet the Rockets won't do it? Also, when ESPN.com had a featrue on up and coming centers, and polled viewers who had more upside between Cato and Kandi, why did over 73% nationwide picked Cato? Kandi was a foreign player that was intriguing- that is why he was the #1 pick. It didn't work out, and Cato is better in almot every area. If any center with an ounce of talent is drafted top 10, explain Charlotte's Brad Miller. This guy was a backup this year that showed a lot of promise, and did very well when starting. He will be a hot property this summer, as legit big men who can play center are hard to find. Where was Miller selected? He was UNDRAFTED. Just because Cato was picked later than Kandi doesn't mean Kandi necessarily has better potential. ------------------ Member of the pro-Collier/Langhi movement. IN RUDY WE TRUST!!
where did you hear the clippers say they would rather have Cato then Olowokandi? I'm not surprised at all that the poll had Cato winning because Cato is the more flashy player, you see his highlight dunks and blocks on espn a lot. But if I had to start a team and i had to choose which center out of the 2 i would rather build a team around i would pick Olowokandi over Cato. Cato is more of a complementary player, the majority of his points comes off of alley-hoop passes and having a great point guard get him some easy points. Whereas Olowokandi if you give him a little time to develop he can be a go to guy inside. He has some low post skills.
Ask oeilpere or any source with inside NBA info. Cato's trade value is close to twice that of Olowakandi's, and I'm not joking. There isn't really a comparison. ------------------ Member of the pro-Collier/Langhi movement. IN RUDY WE TRUST!!
Actually, Olowakandi's trade value is higher, because he isn't luggin' around a massive contract. But Cato is better right now. As far as the Clips go, they'll still suck. Why? Because being a Clipper(much like being a Rocket) is more than just putting on a uniform and getting a check. Being a Clipper means that you are subjected to an atmospehere of constant losing, of no hope. How long do you think these new players will last before they get the "Clipper look"? A month? Two? Hell, Odom lasted far longer than I thought he would, but he still succumbed to that omnipresent, foreboding force that takes promising young talent and turns it into disgruntled veterans. The Clippers are the NBA's version of Hell. ------------------ Who would've thought Don Nelson would pass up Olumide Oyedeji not once, not twice, but thrice?
Shaq scored 24 and 27 points in his 2 complete games vs. the Rockets. He scored 61, 40, 38 and 21 in 4 games vs. the Clippers, and in that 21-point game he only played 29 minutes yet grabbed 19 rebounds.
damn it outlaw. I was going to remind everyone how Shaq scored 61 on Kandi, but against Cato was redered ineffective for one or two games. ------------------ In Rudy I trust.
Cat if your gonna go by nba sources check this site out NBA Player Rankings NBA Player Ratings Olowokandi is on the rise, he's an up and comer and Cato is nowhere to be found. You have to remember that 2 years ago when Kandi was first drafted everyone was saying that you have to give him 2-3 years to develop before he becomes a productive center. Him playing for the Clippers is definately slowing the process down but if you were to put cato on the clippers and put Olowokandi on the Rockets, i truly beleive Kandi would be a top 10 center right now and Cato would be nothing. [This message has been edited by dice7_11 (edited June 30, 2000).]
Dice, Also you must remember that Cato is an ideal type player in the Rockets system, in which he should flourish. Kandi is better served in an old style offense where they can set up at half court and get him the ball down low on the blocks. Kandi is better with his back to the basket. Cato feeds off what the defense gives him as a result of guard penetration. Two different types of players and two different styles of offense. I don't think either would fit as well if the situations were reversed. ------------------ HOOP-T ------------------
Just because some idiot types what they think doesn't support your evidence. I'm talking about real sources here. Your fantasy thing was made at the beginning of the season, when no one knew about Cato because he had never gotten the minutes. Notice it talks about Bison Dele actually playing. And that's just about stats too. Show me something now and about actual game. And that nbadraft.net list is so messed up it isn't even funny. Do you honestly think that John Stockton and Tim Hardaway are better PG's than Francis? That takes away from that sites credibility. And also, look who is on the up and coming centers list with Kandi. Alexsander Radojevic? This guy hasn't even played a game yet!! Do you think he's better than Cato too? Also, many of these sites that I've gone too consider Cato to be a PF, so that could be why as well. ------------------ Member of the pro-Collier/Langhi movement. IN RUDY WE TRUST!!
Alek Radojevic is the best player in Europe right now. I would MUCH rather have Radojevic then Cato from what i've heard about him he's amazing.
and Hoop what i meant by switching situations is that if Olowokandi had Rudy and CD to groom him Olowokandi would be further along then he is right now.
Radojevic over Cato? LOL. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. It's Europe man!! There is not one person on this BBS, not one GM in the league, and hardly any people in the whole world that will take Radojevic over Cato. I guess I'll stop posting on this topic, cause it's obvious you're not going to listen to reason. Radojevic over Cato? I don't know when I'll stop laughing over that one. ------------------ Member of the pro-Collier/Langhi movement. IN RUDY WE TRUST!!
OMG you guys have to be the biggest homers i've ever known. Radojevic is considered better then Arvydas Sabonis when he played in Europe.
Um... that's not what I've heard. And anyway, why the heck would we trade a legit starting NBA center, one of the top 10 centers in the game, for a player who has never played one second in the NBA. That is so funny. Not one GM in the league would ever consider that. ------------------ Member of the pro-Collier/Langhi movement. IN RUDY WE TRUST!!
I am a Homer, Dice...but I am being very objective in my evaluation of Kandi vs. Cato. I am not going to debate about Radojevic b/c I have not seen him play much at all. He doesn't yet get minutes, so it is hard to rate him. European players generally have a different skillset than Americans. The big guys generally aren't as physical, better shooters, etc. The game is taught and coached a bit different over there. I do know that Sabonis is and was regarded as the best European player EVER. If someone has overthrown him as such, I have not heard about it. ------------------ HOOP-T ------------------
Dice- either you're confused or just lying to make Cato look bad. Radojevic doesn't even play in Europe, much less better than Sabonis!! Telebasket.com is the most comprehensive basketball site in the world, having info on thousands of players from thousands of leagues updated each day. Well, I did a little check on Radojevic, and not even a mention of him playing in Europe. The only mention of him is that he plays for the Raptors, and as I figured, he was HURT all this year, not playing in Europe. So everything you said is completely wrong. You need to stop it right there. ------------------ Member of the pro-Collier/Langhi movement. IN RUDY WE TRUST!!
Dice- http://espn.go.com/nba/draft99/players/profiles/radojevic_alek.html Let's take a look at that. As I said earlier, you can go to a number of websites and prove he didn't play in Europe this year. And he went to a community college in Kansas before he played in the NBA. Yeah, a whole lot of Europe right there eh? He doesn't play now, and he went to college in the states too. Also, look at this link, when experts were analyzing Radojevic. http://espn.go.com/nba/draft99/features/01332318.html Buckner: This 7-3 center from Barton County Community College in Kansas has got skills. He was a player who was going to Ohio State, but he played something like 19 minutes of professional ball overseas and that forced him to enter the draft. He can shoot the ball a little bit. He doesn't have overall size. He only weighs 245, but he has put on 25 pounds of that in the last year. He can speak the language well, and he has a good sense of humor in the language. A grand total of 19 MINUTES in Europe!! Was he considered better than Sabonis in that 19 minutes? ------------------ Member of the pro-Collier/Langhi movement. IN RUDY WE TRUST!!
