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[BARKLEY on the series] Utah was a bad matchup for Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by codell, May 6, 2007.

  1. codell

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    He referenced Dallas v. G.S. when he said it and I think he hit the nail on the head.

    Kind of like Seattle was always a bad matchup for us in the 90s.

    IMO, the main reason we lost this series, almost the only reason, was that Boozer dominated the matchup with Yao on D and Okur held Yao in check on O. Blame JVG all you want, but Yao is what he is, and that is slow (Yao is great, but even great players have weaknesses). Boozer took advantage and I don't think there was anything JVG could have done to stop that, other than to not let Yao play (and I don't think that is an option, since Boozer would have treated Deke/Howard the same way and Yao guarding Okur was not much of an option).

    Our 2nd best (some say best) player was not only offset, but almost totally negated the whole series. I think we have the supporting cast, but this team is not elite with T-Mac as our only advantage (see Bryant, Kobe).

    Anyway, Utah was indeed a bad matchup for us. I believe in JVG's defense and one of its few weaknesses is a great passing/cutting/PnR team. Utah might be the best here.

    A bad matchup indeed.
     
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    now utah would have to approach their next opponent completely difference because they are .... Fast
     
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    If you go by that, only San Antionio and Dallas are good matchups for the Rockets because all the other teams are more uptempo teams.
     
  4. rofflesaurus

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    If you wanna talk about bad matchups, WE were supposed to be a bad matchup for the Jazz. We were the 3rd best 3 pt. shooting team and the Jazz are notorious for not guarding the 3 point line. We have the "best center in the NBA" and Okur is a softie on defense. We also had T-Mac on Derek Fisher. We have far more matchup advantages than Utah.
     
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    Actually Dallas is bad for us too because they just sit Dampier/Diop and put Dirk at the 5 and run us off the court.

    Basically with the way the game is called today, having Yao CAN be a disadvantage
     
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    I was kind of in the closet about it, cause im always an optimist, but i was nervous about this series. Utah, like the Suns is a team that can use Yao to their advantage, instead of be dominated by Yao. The Jazz weren't a team like the Suns that would run up and down like crazy and rush Yao would little guys, but it was very hard for Yao to guard Boozer. Boozer played great, but Yao was just too slow to guard Boozer. Hayes could've done a much better job, but then Yao would have to go behind the arc to guard Okur. Utah was a horrible match up for Yao, because no matter who he was guarding he would be at a disadvantage.
     
  7. Doctor Robert

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    My biggest disappointment is not being eliminated. It is the fact we don't get to see how the Rockets matchup with what appears to be the general trend in the league. We played a genuine throwback series against the Jazz, so we really have no idea how we might have been able to do against Phoenix or Golden State. Even if we were to get swept in the second round, I would still want to know how it happened.

    That said, I don't agree that the Jazz were a bad matchup for us. We picked a half court team, like ourselves which was a major thing in my opinion. There was no battle for the tempo of the game, so it boiled down to execution. Boozer abused us throughout the series, but every serious playoff team has a serious mismatch to throw at the opposing team.

    They have Boozer, and we have McGrady and Yao. We lost.
     
  8. codell

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    Not necessarily. Utah is not really umtempo: they play a smart PnR/cutting team game (even though Boozer was pretty dominant for them).

    I think Barkley was referring more to individual matchups (i.e. Yao v. Boozer and Yao v. Okur). Both are excellent mid/long range shooters, which spells doom for Yao.

    T-Mac said in the postgame interview that he wanted us to get more athletic.

    I pray that both V-Span and Snyder will work on their shooting during the summer.
     
  9. codell

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    BTW ....

    did anyone for a sec think we could have gotten away with Yao on Kirilenko (playing off him on the PnR and conceding the jumper, which is not a strong point for him)? That would leave Hayes v. Boozer and Battier on Okur.

    Not questioning JVG here, just wondering what options we had.
     
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    I still think Deke should have gotten more minutes. Rockets sole win over the Jazz in reg season involved Deke with his 17 rebs.
     
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    i dont really buy this: so JAZZ is bad match, who else we could win? if you want to be champ, no bad matchup

    YAO/TMAC didnt deliever, simple and easy
     
  12. RIET

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    Bottom Line:

    Offense:
    Our role players can only shoot jump shots and even then, inconsistently.

    Defense:
    Yao is too slow to guard attacking PFs and Rafer is too slow to guard quick PGs. That's a bad combination.

    Any matchup would be bad for us.

    Rafer vs. Deron Williams/Baron Davis/Tony Parker/Steve Nash

    Of that group, Williams is the most inexperienced and playoff savvy.
     
  13. codell

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    Rockets 92-93 - lost to Seattle in playoffs
    93-94 - won title (no Seattle in playoffs)
    94-95 won title (no Seattle in playoffs)
    95-96 - lost to Seattle in playoffs

    So were the Rockets not a champ or was Seattle not a bad matchup?

    YAO/TMAC didnt deliever, simple and easy[/QUOTE]



    I think mainly Yao didn't deliver, T-Mac was forced to carry a bigger load and our role players somewhat failed. Look, we clearly lost the Yao v. Boozer/Okur matchup. Can't say the same about McGrady v. Fisher/Kirilenko
     
  14. dragon167

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    I dont understand why didnt he try to switch Yao on Okur, at least just for few possessions. Just let Okur shot his long jumpers and see if he can make it. Okur is not a volume shooter anyway. Hayes did a respectable job on Boozer. But defensive genius JVG never TRIED. What adjustments did he make? NONE. And dont let me start how we have 2 offensive superstars but always struggling to get 80 points.
     
  15. codell

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    I don't necessarily disagree. Most nights, we are going to be outmatched and 2-3 positions (including PG) and have to hope that Yao/Tracy offset that (with hope that 2 out of the 3 (Battier, Head, Rafer) have a good 3 point shooting night.

    My point was, we can't expect Tracy, by himself, to offset disadvantages at 3-4 positions, which is what we had in this series.
     
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    Boozer and Okur are both good outside shooters, but Okur has longer range and I don't think it would have been realistic to ask Yao to chase him off PnRs around the 3 point line.

    I agreed with JVG that our best hope was Yao v. Boozer. I think he felt Yao could at least hold him to his average and help keep him off the boards. He couldn't and didn't.
     
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    That is dumb. The difference is Okur is strong enough to hold his own against Yao, while Dirk is a terrible, terible post defender--Yao will eat him alive. That is why Dallas almost never put Dirk at 5 for extended period against us. Dallas has to put Dampier in the game to defend Yao (coz Diop isn't that good on Yao), that slows down their pace and that is to Houston's liking.
     
  18. battousai

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    i Blame this game on JVG with bad game plan.

    For once, I think Yao should be bench and let deke play more on guarding Boozer. For those minuates that deke played he was actually more effective than Yao on guarding boozer and grabbing the rebounds.

    I was waiting to see if JVG would put deke and his elbows out on the jazz, as they were playing all physical on rox the whole series.
     
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    So Utah is a bad matchup for us, but then so is GSW and Phoenix. Oh and let's not forget Dallas, if they made it to the second round.

    So who's left?
     
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    I wonder which team in the west conference playoff would be a GOOD matchup for us? Maybe the lakers? the Nuggets?

    Or maybe we're just not good.
     

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