Baron has alway had a nice mid-range game, so dont let his low fg % throw you off. His fg % is real low because he jacked up alot of 3s. Back to the question, Baron is far far the better player.
francis4prez's post sums it up nicely. people have forgotten how good steve was and are too caught up in what baron is doing now. baron right now is better than steve was in his prime, but he's also a lot better than he's even been before.
Cassell > Davis + Steve I'm sure Baron remembers Sam schooling him during the Bucks vs Hornets playoff series
Francis Mobley S. Anderson Walt Williams Mo Taylor Hakeem (old version) Kenny Thomas Matt Bullard Moochie That team won 45 games. This Warrior team won what, 42? Which team had better players? No question GS had better players.
unfortunately for steve, he peaked that season. but you make a great point. its funny as one of the biggest francis defenders on this site, I have to admit that I've alway liked baron a little more. he's just more of a natural point guard even though as some pointed out, he does shoot too much.
I remember the days, lol, I can't believe that team won 45 games, I was so pissed when we missed out on the Playoffs. Steve averaged 19.9 PPG, 6.9 RPG, and 6.5 APG, clearly his best season
When Stevie was at his peak, I wanted to say Steve, but to be honest, and I wouldnt' have said this back then, but I've always thought that Baron and even Marbury were better. They both played well against Steve, for the most part. As for Stevie's stats, I thought, alot of times his rebounding hurt us more than help. He should've been on the perimeter more, ready to start the break, or just guarding his man. As for which team is more talented, probably this Golden State, individually speaking. Not a whole lot of team player types, imo, so that's irrelevant to this argument.
Baron Davis no question. He's better than Francis in every aspect of the game except free-throw shooting.
im sticking with my team. Francis. I tend to remember the good times - selective memory is a good thing.
except baron wasn't. look at his career compared to steve's and tell me somehow baron has year in and year out been better. it's just not there. i guess only steve could get criticized for doing something good. remember how much bob sura grabbing all those rebounds at the pg position helped us out? especially if you saw the beginning of the first season he was here when he missed the first 10 or 15 games. it helped so much. and francis basically grabbed all the same rebounds sura did. as for starting the fastbreak, what fastbreaks did we ever even try to run back then? and scoring, and shooting, and rebounding.
we didn't run fast breaks because steve would most likely have the ball at some point...and barring him receiving an alley oop, he was a horrendous decision-maker on the break.. along with poor execution, which contributed to him being in bad spots to make those decisions
you're right, the fastbreak has really taken off around here since he left. and i'm pretty sure orlando led or was close to leading the league in fastbreak points his first year there.
good discussion. I think its closer than some think, like someone else said, i think we've forgot that francis was a very good player. i have a hard time deciding which, but i might lean towards baron but it can go either way.
