[videogames] Bioshock graphics

Yonkers · May 1, 2007

Man, check out the water effects in this game. Amazing.
Can't figure how to find the link to embed the flash from this site.

http://www.1pstart.com/bioshock-actually-makes-water-look-badass/

RC Cola · May 1, 2007

They're taking it from Gametrailers, so you should go there if you want to embed it. Click the link for the non-HD video (on the second page right now), and then click the embed button for the code to paste here.

Here it is:
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The developers had 1 or 2 guys dedicated to working on just the water effects over the last year or so IIRC.

Invisible Fan · May 1, 2007

Water effects look the same to me when I'm playing a game.

seclusion · May 1, 2007

Invisible Fan said:

Water effects look the same to me when I'm playing a game.
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you're clearly blind, or perhaps I'm just extremely observant (paid to look at these sort of things). there's about 14 or 15 completely different effects on each separate instance of their water.

RocketMan Tex · May 1, 2007

That sh*t was making me dizzy....

KaiSeR SoZe · May 1, 2007

thats pretty cool..is this like resident evil?

RC Cola · May 1, 2007

I admit that there are some parts of the video where the water isn't all that impressive (compared to other games anyway), but there are some parts that are definitely amazing (usually when the water is running down a wall or something like that).

KaiSeR SoZe said:

thats pretty cool..is this like resident evil?
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Uh...sort of I guess, depending on what you mean by like. This is a FPS with RPG elements (like System Shock 1 and 2, which these guys also developed), so it isn't similar at all in that regard (the story isn't really alike either I suppose). The game definitely has some suspenseful and horrific/creepy moments as well as some puzzle-solving, so I guess it is "like" RE in that regard though.

I can dig up some older videos if you guys are interested. There is probably like ~20 minutes of (gameplay) video for this game on the web. Along with these water effects, it seems to have some awesome AI.

Invisible Fan · May 1, 2007

seclusion said:

you're clearly blind, or perhaps I'm just extremely observant (paid to look at these sort of things). there's about 14 or 15 completely different effects on each separate instance of their water.
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It looks great in one frame, but when you're in the game, not sure how it really matters. Tricks like real time reflective lighting is cutting edge, but if they cheated, I wouldn't notice most of the time.

seclusion · May 1, 2007

Invisible Fan said:

It looks great in one frame, but when you're in the game, not sure how it really matters. Tricks like real time reflective lighting is cutting edge, but if they cheated, I wouldn't notice most of the time.
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there is a LOT of water in this game, it's set underwater -- this is why they wanted the effects to be so believable. honestly, without question those water effects in certain places are hands down better than any other game.

JusBleezy · May 2, 2007

Delving further into the game, it looks amazing and I'll play it, but I'm not sure if I'll like it. It's odd, because I haven't seen any gameplay trailers for it yet. The game can look beautiful, but if the gameplay doesn't match up, then it won't matter. I'm worried about it because the game seems to be very different than any game coming out and I have no clue what the gameplay will consist of. I'm definitely not into the Resident Evil type of gameplay (i.e. overzealously limiting what you can carry forcing you to run away a large chunk of the game).

Well, in any event, we shall see.

I'm actually looking forward more to Mass Effect...

RC Cola · May 2, 2007

Some info from Wikipedia that does good job of describing the game:

Initial story

The game starts with the player underwater following a plane crash in the ocean, surrounded by debris. No introductory cut scene is displayed explaining how this happened, leaving the player to decide for themselves why they were on the plane. Nearby, a lighthouse is sticking out of the water, in the middle of the ocean. Upon getting inside and traversing the internal stairwell, the player finds a bathysphere, with a corpse inside. Upon removing the corpse and descending in the bathysphere (having nowhere else to go), the player eventually reaches an underwater city on the ocean floor.

A plot unfolds involving the crumbling city, named Rapture, and the utopian society for which it was built. A man named Andrew Ryan, a former Soviet citizen, built the city in 1946, and the society was envisioned as the ultimate capitalistic and individualist paradise, with the elite achieving for themselves, rather than for the whole. Protected by a network of giant sea walls and consisting of a cluster of enormous skyscraper-shaped hive towers, Rapture was designed to be entirely self-supporting, with all of its electricity, food production, water purification and defense systems powered by the natural undersea currents of the ocean. At one point, it is learned that Rapture's population numbered several thousand at its peak during the early 1950s, composed of those people Ryan viewed as the best examples of mankind. A large and tiered economy grew among the people, catering different quality products to different levels of the society. The city itself is inspired by Art Deco and has an appearance merging the futuristic and archaic.

A scientific discovery upset the balance of the society. Two scientists studying ocean-floor dwelling creatures discovered a species of sea slug that secretes pure stem cells. These could be used to enhance one's body, improving physical or mental capabilities, curing diseases and healing injuries. A young entrepreneur named Fontaine invested early on in the research to gain control over the material. The substance, dubbed "Adam", became so sought after in the society, that it became the dominant currency of the city. A "full-scale genetic arms race" broke out between Ryan and Fontaine as Fontaine's monopoly on Adam threatened the current social structure. Ryan eventually won, but everyone in the city was permanently changed. During the war, it was discovered that Adam could be used to modify one's body, combining technology and mutations to adapt and survive the conflict, but losing their humanity in the process. During the conflict, all natural sources of Adam were destroyed, which eventually resulted in a major shift in the "ecology" of the city, as all inhabitants had become biologically dependent on Adam to survive.

When the player arrives in Rapture, the city is in a state of disrepair, its vast underground living areas and laboratory complexes scarred by the effects of the civil war and poisoned by biological weapons. Low-level flooding is also found to be a problem, as the use of high-powered explosives and corrosion weapons during the war created small breaches in the city's sea walls, allowing seawater to enter some of the buildings.

As the player descends through the underwater city, he or she will explore the many levels of the giant undersea base, including the huge living quarters modules and the multi-floored scientific headquarters. Remnants of the last days remain in notes and recordings made by the citizens before and during the collapse of Rapture's society. Not only does this provide background, it also opens new avenues in the player's interaction with the ecology of Rapture.

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Four main categories of enemies are encountered:

* Aggressors: (splicers) Deformed, genetically modified nurses who are now remnants of Ryan's army, the Aggressors cannot survive in an oxygen atmosphere due to their extensive biological modifications. They wear little or no armor, and normally roam the levels of Rapture, searching for other inhabitants to kill and steal Adam from. As their name would suggest, they are aggressive and violent, and will use their enhanced physical strength, group tactics and, sometimes, semi-biological weapons to kill all in their path.
* Gatherers: (Little Sisters) Genetically modified children, the Gatherers were created as a solution to the Adam shortage. They extract Adam from the dead with the tools they carry and eat it, their bodies reprocessing it into a usable form, known as Eve. The team designed them so the player would have a moral conflict in killing children to obtain Adam as well as severe difficulty due to their relation to the Protectors as their charges. According to lead designer Paul Hellquist, the Gatherers have a direct link with the main character.
* Protectors: (Big Daddies, or Mr. Bubbles as some of the Gatherers call them) Mute, lumbering bio-mechanical monstrosities, created to protect the Gatherers. They are heavily armored and wield high-powered weaponry, including a large drill. Their armor somewhat resembles large diving suits. Most of the inhabitants stay out of the way of the Gatherers and Protectors. According to lead designer Paul Hellquist "Once you mess with them, you find out why no-one messes with them."
* Security Bots: Throughout the city of Rapture, there are various security cameras. When disturbed, a siren will sound and an unlimited supply of security bots will pour out. The only way to take them down is to destroy the camera or, like in the demo, shut off the security system. Security bots appear to hover and fly using the same method as helicopters and are armed with machine guns.
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Self-modification
To adapt and advance their character, the player can spend Adam to gain upgrades called "Plasmids" to modify themselves and give themselves new and/or enhanced abilities and weapons. These are grouped under trees that are Weaponry, Engineering, Active, and Physical.

One of these abilities, as mentioned in a GameSpot preview of the game, is Aggressor Irritant, which causes all nearby Aggressors(Splicers) to attack the target of the plasmid. There is a Plasmid that allows the player to sound like a Gatherer, gaining Protector aid and scaring away some Aggressors. A screenshot released in August 2006 shows a fire-related plasmid ability along with video revealing a plasmid allowing the player to produce a horde of wasp like creatures from his very veins.

A BioShock Developer Walkthrough video also revealed the existence of "Speed Boost" (temporary superspeed) and "Security Beacon" (causes security devices to detect (and attack) the target). Also during the video, when accessing the "Plasmi-Quik" (a device to change plasmids), there is a fire-based plasmid. Recently released pictures also revealed a lightning-related plasmid. Interviews on the website also refer to an ice-based plasmid. Recently, a new in-game video released on March 2, 2007, on the GameSpot web site displayed the use of two Plasmids: one allows the main character to use telekinesis to manipulate objects in the world with his/her mind and another Plasmid allows the main player to teleport to a pre-determined point.

It is hinted that some (if not all) plasmids alter the character's appearance (some screen shots show the character's hands with a texture similar to some of the splicers' skin), keeping up with the theme of "sacrificing your humanity" referenced by Ryan in one of the game's trailers [7]. It is not known if the character's mutation will have any significant impact on the game's plot.

Weapon modification
In the 15 minute gameplay demonstration video, Ken Levine states that weapons can be modified to shoot different kinds of bullets, to hold bigger magazines and to shoot more powerfully.
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Early Developer Walkthrough from September 06 (~15 minutes)
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CG Trailer
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Another Walkthrough (7 minutes)
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Two Recent Trailers
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JusBleezy · May 2, 2007

Thanks for the update RC. The CG trailer was definitely engrossing. I'm more convinced now. Will definitely pick it up.

bladeage · May 2, 2007

aww i didnt know it was gonna be a FPS...

DaDakota · May 2, 2007

Graphics look cool but game play is KING !

DD

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WhoMikeJames · May 2, 2007

Reminded me of Half-Life 2... Idk Why.

Invisible Fan · May 2, 2007

Uprising said:

On a side note. I"m now running 8800 Graphic cards in SLI!!! WHOOOHOOOO!
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Wow...do you have any nice screenshots?

Yaozer · May 3, 2007

Pssshh.. what water effects? nothing to look at there, the water looks the same as the one in my neighborhood swimming pool...

SwoLy-D · May 3, 2007

Yaozer said:

Pssshh.. what water effects? nothing to look at there, the water looks the same as the one in my neighborhood swimming pool...

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Exactly. Could OTHER GAMES make it so? I'm sorry that the developers couldn't draw a t9rd on their game water...

you did mean that as a joke, right?

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