I think we will. I think that TMac is gonna play inspired, fired-up basketball. He should...he owes us after tonight's performance. That 5 seconds in the first half play by him pretty much summed up his night Got faith, though
It's not an overreaction to be concerned. Not at all. There is reason to be a bit concerned. The point of the thread was just that when we have lost, people make like 40 threads all complaining about the Rockets. Totally pointless and redundant. Want to rant about JVG? Rant in the JVG Sucks thread. Want to rant about TMac's uninspired effort in game 4? Rant about it in the TMac it's on YOU thread...
What's the point of this thread. It's not overreaction. It's normal reaction after Rockets played with no heart in two games in a row.
*sighs* I was talking about that people on this MB seem to think that they need to start a NEW THREAD when they want to rant when there are already threads on that topic You should be pissed that we lost. But who wants to read a MB with 30 threads b*tching about the same 4 topics?
TMAC is TMAC. He needs to win or he will have NO legacy and no leg to stand on. He ISN'T one of the best players if he can't get his own team out of the first round. He must take over and win the series. Can't count on Head, Alston or even Battier now. If it's 2 on 5, so be it but HE must take over. No more S$$$ like that pass at the end of the 2nd quarter to Hayes. He needs to take the last second shot because he is the man. Don't give it to a guy who can't shoot (don't care how open). Yao is another question. It's time to question his manhood. Yes, he is soft, very soft. Way too soft to be considered dominate. He is not even adequate at this point. No bigman worth calling himself a NBA player would get a offensive rebound 2 inches from the basket and not dunk it (with both hands and rattle the rim). It was needed, it was a must and it wasn't done. I lost all respect for the guy. I don't care if he makes 95% of his FT. It's his job as the big-man to do the big-man job. He is getting punished on the offensive end by Okur. He isn't playing any defense and he is soft. I know I am way over-reacting but who cares. I have lost interest in this series and even if the Rockets pull an upset and win this series. They have no chance of wining in the 2nd round. NONE. No matter if it's Dallas or Oakland. Either team will beat the Rockets handly.
Please don't be confused between: "The ABILITY of TMac to utterly dominate a game at any given time." and "The POSSIBILITY of TMac to utterly dominating a game at any time." It is entirely possible for him to take over a game. But make no mistake about it: TMac can't take over a game at will.
Agreed. Too many fans here are in denial about the way the Rockets have played in this series. I don't think the raw material is there for a "Clutch City" type of response from this team. Just look at two of the players from that team that went on to prove out their "Clutch" attitude -- Sam Cassell, Robert Horry. Then there was "Mad" Max, who had the name for a reason. And a tough nose PF name Otis Thorpe who mixed it up with the best of them. And the centerpiece, of course, Dream! I'm sorry. I wish I could see enough players with attitude like that on this team. It would be easier to believe in a rebirth of Clutch City. I think the seeds are there... Chuck Hayes... Shane Battier... Deke. But there has to be a player that becomes the focal point for this energy to resonate. In those days it was Hakeem. Does it seem we have that player? It's sometimes called a "leader." I've questioned this many times since the lost to Dallas two years ago. I don't think a team changes it's character over night. Clutch City was and is a rare thing. We'll see Monday night. Soon enough.
For those of you willing to mitigate the reactions of extreme emotions for fans with reasonably high expectations, you are abso-freakin-lutely kidding yourselves to no end. Are you even watching the same games/teams I am? We barely hang on to win in our own gym because the refs called the games in a somewhat reasonable manner and we get blown out, and are unable to generate anything remotely resembling offense for two straight games (not that our first two games were offensve masterpieces either though)!!! Utah has figured us out. The Rockets, when given only two choices: 1. Shoot poorly from the perimeter, or 2. Take it to the basket and deal with the physical punishment that comes with it... Have been subsequently reduced to a mediocre perimeter team. This is absolutely the weakest, softest, B.S. playoff team left among those still playing (and I think Orlando has more balls than we do)!!! When you count on one hand the number of times a ROX player actually drives toward the basket, with ball in hand, intent on shooting a layup or dishing to somone else who can dunk the ball or lay it in, then we've got a serious problem folks. I'm willing to bet posting priviledges for a month that the ROX not only lose on Monday, but we also lose this series. Let's face it, the Jazz and Jerry Sloan took a long look at the ROX and said, "you know, these guys don't seem to like contact very much, and since the Refs are only going to call fouls for players who are aggressive, I think we can take them." I told my son last night that there's no way I would play a worse game at PG than Rafer, and I just turned 46!!! In one 15 second span in the 3rd qrtr, Rafer shot an ill advised shot, threw the ball away and then fouled Deron Williams as he blew right by for a layup. That was only one of the MANY, MANY times that Rafer's lack of desire and physical intensity cost the ROX points, time and momentum!!! I am so f*cking sick and tired of Rafer and JVG that I could just puke. It's absolutely stunning that people on this board dont' think JL3 or Kill Bill could do a better job if given 40+ minutes per game in which to produce. Indeed, in the limited time they've been given of late, both have been productive and at least Kill Bill TRYS TO DRIVE TO THE HOOP!!!! I have limited money, and I've NEVER bet against one of MY teams before, but this ROX crew is SO outclassed on the hustle and desire end of things and JVG is getting his ass clocked on the coaching end SO BAD, that I will put my posting priviledges (for one month) up against whomever has something of equal value!!! This pains me to say it in this manner, but our team sucks in a huge way!!! We are absolutely outclassed as a playoff team in the Western Conference!!!
The Rockets will be back ready for game 5, they "usually" play their best in pressure games, and with their backs against the wall. There is a reason why I avoid this place when the Rockets lose, because 65-75 of Rockets fans are bandwagoners, yes even Clutchfans has the same ratio. As far as people being "concerned" these are the Rockets if they haven't fixed their problems by 86 games into the season, they will never. At this point every new thread today and tomorrow, that rips on the Rockets it should be considered overreacting, because we will never be an excellent pick and role defense, the Rockets will never be able to play a run and gun style offense. This is the playoffs everyone on the team should be playing at a higher level than they are, they are professionals, this is where players make a name for themselves for bandwagoners who haven't decided to watch a game to realize who these players are. Which is why everyone most of the ESPN or NBA "experts" the first thing they talk about T-mac is his inability to make it out of the first round, why Dirk always dissapears in the playoffs. But after all is said in done, I still have faith in this team. Go Rockets!!!!
I absolutely live and die with EVERY single win and loss of the ROX. I drive my kids and wife away due to my overexuberance. This is a chance we have not had in ten years and I see us blowing it. Not by Tmac attitude, and not solely by JVG's inflexibility, but rather due to our team's complete and utter sublimation to the physical dominance of another team and coach. So, though I have lost faith in the way this team is playing and the way it's being coached, I am no more a bandwagoner than anyone else is who proclaims undying loyalty to the team. We will all go on to either glory or go down in flames. My feelings will burn just as bright and hot as any who diagree with me. I say all things I say about the ROX only out of an agonizing sense of loyalty. Does this mean I'm not a ROX fan? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! I don't think we can win against the Jazz with Rafer at PG or JVG at Coach. This is my dismal, and horrilble perspective. You have no idea how deeply I long to be proven wrong!!! So can it with all your righteous indignation toward those of us who are willing to look at our team without the rose-colored glasses. I suppose those of you who don't think the ROX got smoked in back to back games are also still supportive of the War in Iraq. Those WMD will be there anyday now. Right.
Guess I should of said passioniate fans who overreact after every win or every loss, instead of bandwagoners. If Rockets went up 3-1 instead of being tied 2-2 do you think people would be calling for JVG's head, questioning T-mac's heart, demanding Yao to grow a pair? The fact is this is the playoffs, sweeps are a very rare thing, this is a 4-5 series meaning the most even of all matchups in the 1st round. Hell even the Jazz won the season series 2-1, not including last game since no one even played. The Rockets towards the end of the season showed they had their heart and desire to win HCA, it is TBD whether they have the heart and desire to win this series, because the team that wants it more will win it, since these teams are very even.
isn't this the same shlt you said after Game 3.. I'm telling you.. bad teams will continue to play bad. you just keep telling yourself that.. and i'll just watch hoping we're not a bad team. I, for one, know when its time to be ignorant or realistic. Someone has to show up.
shut up. lol.. but seriously, if you just watch our players play... you'd see a lot of problems that could have been fixed prior to season or during season, in terms of personnel and in terms of better mental preparation. but whatever.. it's too late, we gotta use what we got. and so far, we haven't used it efficiently. jvg chilling and clapping when we fck up on offense is one reason i'm doubting right now.
