Was it? Well, in any case, I thought it was odd that Shane was mentioned. I honestly didn't think anyone other than we Rockets fans thought Shane was a DPOY candidate. To be honest I was only half watching the game. But I was thinking Camby was mentioned. I guess its besides the point
Not like this has a point really in this thread but Alonzo was the name I heard, not Camby...although Camby is a better choice than Zo.
if Shane gets the title of DPY, with the statistic of 10/4/2, it would be the biggest drollery in the nba history. that wont happen. at least Mutomubo would never vote for Shane.
After watching a full season with him, I'm actually starting to think Battier's defense and hustle is a little overrated. He has a lot of both, but he's not really DPOY worthy. In fact, he may not even be the best defender on our team. Whenever he puts the effort, McGrady is probably our best 1-on-1 defender, and is almost always our best team defender (other than Yao or Deke on help D, of course). Shane is still a very valuable asset, of course. And for the mere fact that McGrady's effort is inconsistent, he's probably our most reliable man-on-man defender.
the likelyhood of shane winning DPOY is the same as us winning the next 20 championships. he's way overrated. Kobe's dropped 50 on him 2 times this year. I really haven't seen him slow anyone down. he's always there gaurding the guy, but the guy still makes the shot in his grill. I think he should win the award for Guy who gets J'd up the most in the league.
dollery...you jest! maybe you don't know Bruce Bowen's stats. Over Bruce Bowen's past SIX years being 1st team/2nd team Defender, take his best stat from those 6 years, not ONE single main stat that Bruce Bowen had surpasses Battier's stats for this year. That's three 1st teams and three 2nd teams for Bruce Bowen. Not one stat better than Battier. And Bowen has gotten DPOY talk before, no doubt. was it drollery to consider Bowen a DPOY? Not saying he should of got it or Battier deserves it this year, but you certainly do not need any stats to make 1st team three yrs in a row...that's been proven.
1st team sounds more of a sure thing. My top5 defenders in random order Shane Duncan J. O'neal Bowen Camby
ignorant post. good offense will beat good defense. who exactly in the league can guard kobe? and not that it matters, but both times kobe got 50+ against THE ROCKETS (notice how I didn't say against BATTIER), it took OT. I'm not saying Battier SHOULD win DPOY, but to say he hasn't slowed anyone down is flat out wrong. Try watching the games instead of waiting for the Top 10 plays on ESPN.
Here are my votes: Defensive POY: Shane MVP: TMac COY: Van Gundy Sixth Man of the Year: Deke NBA Champions: Houston Rockets Rookie of the Year: VSpan
Shane deserves defensive recognition, but he's not DPOY. Camby will probably win it considering that in addition to his stats (3.25 blocks, 11.7 rebs, 1.3 steals), he's also a damn good position defender. Camby is the complete defensive package at center. Shane maximizes his ability and is one of the best team defenders in the league. He knows where every teammate should be on defense, and covers for them when they make mistakes. Shane is slow of foot though and has a really hard time keeping guards in front of him. It's unfair to compare Shane to big men though because KG, Duncan, and Camby are all better than Shane Battier, but their impact different because of their size and position....different, but surely better. So in comparison to wing defenders, my tops are: Ron Artest Shane Battier Raja Bell Kobe Bryant Bruce Bowen Manu Ginobili Josh Howard Shawn Marion Tayshaun Prince These guys vary in size and speed, but they are the best NBA perimeter defenders out there excluding PGs. It's really hard to judge PG defense though because 1 on 1 iso defense is rare for PGs, and most PG defense is about recovery because you're always getting run around screens when you're on the ball. Essentially though, I'd put all those guys in the same boat defensively. Some can do a few things better than others, but it all evens out on the main scale. Pretty sick that Kobe, Manu, and Howard have major offensive talent and skills too.
They just debated who should be DPOY on TNT. Chuck picks the San Antonio Spurs. That's right... he picked a team, not a player. In the entire segment, absolutely no mention of Shane Battier. I will admit that I wasn't paying close attention to the TV, so maybe they did when I wasn't looking.
I don't think Shane can get it. Hes not in the top of steals, blocks, or rebounds, unlike others. Halftime on TNT analysis of DPOY: Kenny - Tyson Chandler (2nd in rebounds) Reggie - Marcus Camby (leader in blocks) Barkley (Moron) - Thought he was funny so he picked the whole San Antonio Spurs team, "They are the best defensive team in the NBA and lead in every defensive category" Actually Charles, they lead in one, points. The Rockets lead in FG% and team rebounds (rebounding is defense).
Nope no mention of Shane. Bruce Bowen, Gerald Wallace, Camby, Tyson Chandler all mentioned, but no Shane. Reggie Miller cited assists as a reason why Camby should be considered....LOL what a joke. I have lost all respect for Inside the NBA.
If they had a "glue guy" award, Battier would win that. If they had a "best hustler" award, Hayes would win that.
Shane Battier is among the very best perimeter defenders out there. Sure he can be beat, but every perimeter defender get beat with the talent in this league and the rules. I remember thinking Artest played really good defense one game when TMac dropped about 40 on him. There isn't one single defender who can guarantee shutdowns, Shane is as effective as anyone out there on his own man. However, where he truely shines is on team defense... he's great at transition D, I lost count on how many fast breaks he stopped when he's playing 1 on 2. He also makes the correct rotation almost all the time. The guy deserves all D team and even DPOY consideration.
Those are some very good points Carl Herrera. I slightly disagree with you about Battier though, for he just doesn't have the foot speed of some of his peers. I'm not saying Battier is a worse defender than those other 9 wing defenders I've named, but he's not definitively better either. I love his team defense, but he's not a perfect defender. Manu and Kobe and Bowen have more foot speed...maybe Bell too. Those 9 are the elite wing defenders and I can't say 1 is the best because they all have flaws. They're in the same plane. Wade has the tools to be a great wing defender, but he's a little short, and totally freelances on defense playing the lanes, double teaming for a steal attempt at his own will.
It's so funny to see the difference that 10/4/2 from Battier makes, versus roughly the same stats from Stromile Swift last year. On paper, they look about even, but Battier gives you extra possessions that don't show up in the individual stat lines. He just seems to make the right reads an instant before a play happens - especially when he draws charges, or when he tips a ball he can't control to a teammate.
