if they could lose four in a row to start the season, i dont see how its impossible for the Mighty Warriorz to sweep the Mavpricks btw did u see the last GSW vs DAL game? total pwnage
No they lost 13 games because they don't play the Gs every game. When they do.... guess what they lost.
based on your logic the Warriors are better than Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, and Detroit. GS vs. Dallas last game - W 117-100 GS vs. Houston last game - W 110-99 GS vs. Phoenix last game - W 124-110(they had a 20-pt lead for most of the game before a late spurt by the Suns bench) GS vs. Detroit last game - W 111-93
If the lakers, clips and warriors all go 42-40 who is in and who is out? I would guess the lakers and warriors make it because of better conference records. Then the lakers would be 7th seed because they won heads up against the warriors. Does anyone know for sure how the tie breakers work?
Just guessing what you have is right, except I'd imagine there'd be some kind of head to head component first. Like if the Clipeprs had the head to head advantage against both the Lakers and Warriors, even with the worst conference record. Or maybe an overall head-to-head record. The Warriors were 2-6 against the LA teams Clippers were 4-4 against Lakers/Warriors So Lakers were 6-2 against Warriors/Clippers ...don't know the exact answer?
I think GS is the odd man out in a 3-way tie. Here are the official tie breaker rules: http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html#tbb It says better winning % in all games amongst the tied teams. So that means among the Lakers, Clippers, and Warriors, 8 games have been played by each team. The Lakers are 6-2 The Clippers are 4-4 The Warriors are 2-6 So if all are at 42-40, then GS will miss the playoffs, the Lakers will be 7th and the Clippers will be 8th. If the Lakers are 41-41 and both the Clippers and Warriors are 42-40, then the Lakers will be out, the Clippers will be 7th and the Warriors will be 8th. Basically, the Warriors need help. Both the Clippers and Lakers control their own destiny, and both the Clippers and the Lakers have tie breakers over the Warriors (Lakers b/c they are 4-0 vs Warriors and Clippers b/c they have a better division record). If the Warriors are 42-40, and both the Lakers and Clippers are 41-41, then the Warriors are 7th, the Lakers are 8th, and the Clippers are out. The Lakers have the easiest path. I think they'll lose to the Suns, which would put them at 40-40, but then they host Seattle and close the season at Sacramento. Win those 2 and they're in for sure. Go 1-1 and they're still in unless the Clippers and Warriors go a combined 8-0. So I'm already assuming that the Lakers are going to lose their next game, and after that, they still control their own destiny. It would be a monumental collapse if the Lakers don't make the playoffs.
It'd be hilarious for Kobe & Phil to miss the playoffs, but then how I think how there would be a > 0% possibility for them to draft Oden/Durant (or trade the pick for Billups) and it takes the fun out of it.
Come to think of it, how annoying would it be to listen to the play-by-play announcers with Odom and Oden on the same team.
The thing about Dallas is that against good teams, more often than not they will try to adapt to their style of play instead of imposing their own tempo. That's why Dallas-Phoenix games are always high scoring, and that's why teams like Phoenix and Golden State will always have a chance to beat Dallas... if you can score on Dallas, you can beat them. GS has the guns and the offensive capability to outgun Dallas every time. I don't expect them lose a 7 game series, but unless Dallas finds a way to impose their tempo with some stifling defense, they're going to have problems in that series. The Spurs, on the other hand, will force you to play their game regardless of who you are. So teams like Denver, Phoenix (unfortunately for them, since they're going to meet in the 2nd round) and Golden State will always find it very difficult to beat the Spurs. The Rockets are like that to an extent, except that it's more difficult for us to handle the matchup problems created at center with Amare/Diaw et al (Spurs find it easier because Duncan is a much more mobile big than Yao is).
I pretty much agree with you except 1 difference. I think Denver matches up better with the Spurs better than with Phx or Dallas. I see Denver potentially giving the same fits as Sac (Wells, Artest) did to SA last year, except Denver has better interior defenders to man up on Duncan than Sac did. On the other hand the Spurs might very well be the most difficult team for Phx to defeat--similar to what you said.
My opinion on the Warriors, Clippers & Lakers fighting for the last two spots: Warriors. 39-40. Min, Dal & @Por. They are guaranteed to win all 3 games unless catastrophe hits them. Minny and Dallas don't care any more and the Blazers don't have enough players to compete with them. They finish 42-40. Clippers. 39-40. Sac, @Phx & NOK. At least 2/3. The Suns game depends on whether the Suns have anything to play for. My guess at this time is they will lose to Phoenix and finish with 41-41. Lakers. 40-40. Sea & @Sac. They will go 1-1 and finish 41-41. Putting them in Sactown on the last game of the season was genius. There will be 10,000 cowbells and their fans will be frothing at the mouth to see the Kings knock the Lakers out of the playoffs. I hope I'm able to somehow watch this game from Kuwait. Bottom line: The Warriors vs. Mavs series won't happen because the Warriors will finish with 40 losses, ahead of both the Clips and Lakers. They will play the Suns while the Lakers slip in ahead of the Clips because of a better division record to play the Mavs. The 2nd most likely scenario is the Lakers beat the Kings and the Clips lose to the Suns. The leaves the Clips out and the Lakers get the Suns because they swept the Warriors, who get the Mavs. The 3rd most likely scenario is the Clips beat the Suns and the Lakers lose to the Kings. The Lakers are left out while the Clips get the Suns because of a better divisional record than the Warriors, who get the Mavs. The last realistic scenario is all 3 teams win out, i.e, the Clips win in Phoenix and the Lakers win in Sactown. The Warriors get left out because they have the worst record (2-6) in games among the 3 tied teams. The Lakers get the Suns and the Clips get the Mavs because the Lakers have a better divisional record. For those who want the Warriors to make it, too bad they don't control their destiny because they should win all 3 remaining games easily.
I know how badly everyone wants Allas to lose in the 1st Round, but it's very unlikely. They will beat GSW in 4 or 5 games, because they are... a better team. I know all the fans here would be excited to play a weaker team in the playoffs, like GS. But it's not going to happen if we get past to just get ready Mavs. What makes everyone think that will easily get passed Utah? We are very suspect team ourselves, we're not very quick, we don't have 3rd option, and if the other team slows down Yao/T-Mac, we are pretty much out of the game.
I assume that most people believe that Dallas will beat the 8 seed regardless of who it is but GS can push Dallas the hardest and atleast make them break a sweat.
good analysis A_3PO. I hope your 3rd most likely scenerio plays out: Clips vs. Suns, Warriors vs. Mavs, Lakers out!
Regardless who is in who is out, after the 1st round of playoff, I hope the following 4 teams stay: Rockets, Warriors, Nuggets and Lakers(or Clips). Come on underdogs, upset NBA, make yr 2007 special!
