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What do we do when the defense triple team yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocket3forlife2, Apr 5, 2007.

  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

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    What do we do when defenses triple team Yao?

    The answer isn't 'Rocket' science: Tracy must punish the defense by repeatedly scoring or setting up very easy baskets. If he doesn't...

    What do we do when defenses triple team Yao? Answer: LOSE!

    See, it's very simple.

    P.S: For maybe one game out of seven our 3 point shooters will win it for us.
     
  2. rocket3forlife2

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    I still think its some kind of play we could run...something that may be off the wall, but would work.There where a couple of post on the first page that I think might work.
     
  3. doublehh03

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    no, they have small guys who can rotate out to our shooters pretty quickly.

    and what u don't get is yao is not athletic/quick enough to get the lob passes that a player like shaq/duncan can. if yao was quicker, we kill this type of defense but he's not.

    as a result, jvg had to take yao out.

    but again, only 2 teams do this.
     
  4. doublehh03

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    and u see why suns don't do this v. duncan?

    just imagine if yao at this height had more quickness and athleticism. if that's the case, then u have a nearly perfect big man :D
     
  5. A_3PO

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    The Suns do double-team Duncan or he kills them. When they do, TP kills them. As I said in another thread, Tracy should destroy the Suns when they double/triple Yao like TP does when they decide to stop Duncan. Instead of turnaround jumpers, fadeaways and 3 pointers, he needs to attack the basket and finish. Poor shot selection and bailing out defenders is Tracy's Achilles leg.
     
  6. doublehh03

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    are u watching the same game i'm watching? they are not employing the same defense on duncan. they double him, but not like they do w/ yao.

    and at least duncan can touch the ball v. those double teams b/c he's quick and mobile enough to do so. yao can't. and also, duncan can play outside the paint just as effective so that's a way for him to combat the double teams. yao can't.

    and if anything parker is worse of a shooter than us. the reason the spurs can beat the suns is duncan can extend his game out to 20ft. yao can't.

    there's a reason jvg pulls yao out often v. these types of teams. tracy didnt play yesterday but yao still ended up w/ 27 mins. yao's just not mobile enough or play far enough away from the basket to combat that type of double teaming.

    duncan can.
     
  7. Luffy1

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    Pretty easy to beat it if you pull Yao out, but stupid jvg won't let yao play outside. Yao can hit the 15-20 footers with ease if he was allowed to shoot them.
     
  8. steddinotayto

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    You keep asking for a play

    "There has to be some miracle play we can run"
    "Still, we have to find a play to run"
    "Is there a play they can run?"

    Answer is simple like many have stated:

    1. Yao finds the open shooters and they shoot. The more shots they hit, the less double/triple teams Yao faces and Yao gets to dominate.

    2. They send three people at Yao leaving others open and those same others needs to do their part by getting open. Then when they get the ball, they need to see #1 or penetrate.

    There isn't a golden solitary play that works against triple teams..there's just common sense. If your man is too busy collapsing on Yao, make yourself useful by being open and ready to shoot or be open and ready to attack.
     
  9. firezh

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    1. make layups and try to draw fouls
    2. unleash bonzi
     
  10. metalshred

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    When they face the smaller, quicker lineups, why can't Yao just shoot treys and let the rest of the rockets who can penetrate to score in the paint? He's not much use in the paint against suns and warriors in the paint(in the rockets' current game plan), so why can't they make a change? They can't expect to double yao outside the 3 point lane as well, can they? Plus Yao is not considered a threat outside the paint yet, maybe he can draw double teams even outside the paint after a few games, which will leave the paint really WIDE open for the other roX.

    In short words, if he can shoot 3 and his offense in the paint is not working, then why not give it a shot? They should learn to use Yao differently in different games, for God's sake, he's not only a Paint Machine
     
  11. room4rentsf

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    great post
     
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    Because that would be asking JVG to think outside the box for once and he's not capable of doing that.
     
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    The spurs have 3 good offensive players outside of Duncan: Parker, Ginobili, and Finley, who has been very good lately. This is the main reason the suns don't play the same style of defense against Duncan. If they double like that Parker/Ginobili will drive into the lane and get a basket.

    Yesterday the best the Rockets had outside of Yao was Luther Head. The Warriors surrendered a ton of open jumpers, but that was by design. If McGrady played the Warriors would be forced to abandon their defensive scheme, or let McGrady drop 40.
     
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    I am going to put most of the blame on Yao, at least for last night's game. There were a few good passes that he dropped, which would have been easy dunks/layups had he caught them. Secondly, when he is being fronted, he has position advantage on O boards, which means he should be cleaning up the glass and converting on putbacks. If he had done that early on in the game a few times, they would have been forced to change up their defense and play behind him. Yao needs to learn how to better deal with this tactic, and his teammates must be more decisive in moving the ball.
     
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    Passing the ball straight to Al Harrington is not a good pass. Nor is throwing it out of bounds. Yao had 1 turnover yesterday, an offensive foul, and that's because the bad passes were not his fault. They were bad passes.

    Shooting long jumpers tends to result in long rebounds, which Yao wouldn't be able to get. It also doesn't help that he was doubled off the ball which means that if someone shoots there are already 2 people boxing him out.
     
  16. doublehh03

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    thats just dumb. obviously any player can shoot a 3 in warmups. we usually keep yao in there for offensive rebounds b/c that's the only way he can score. if u remember 2 yrs ago when yao had that 20-20 game v. the suns, he grabbed a bunch of offensive rebounds and score a lot from there.
     
  17. rocket_zoom

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    The answer is quite simple: the open guy must sink the shot.

    Any time Yao is double teamed, there should be an open player. And passing it to Yao while he is double teamed is not a good option (as demonstrated last night) because it will be that much harder for Yao to receive the pass, resulting in turnovers.

    Rocket_Zoom
     
  18. ritou

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    The answer is simple and obvious. Our back court is too weak. They are not stable at 3s and can't do penetrate. To prove this, just think about Spurs: if we have a player like Ginobili and they double or triple Yao, he will shoot their **** out or just attack the rim like crazy. We just lack talent in our back court. :eek:
     
  19. Rockets64

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    This is how you destroy teams that try to go small on us...




































    Play Bonzi
     
  20. metalshred

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    One crazy idea: How about putting mutombo at Center and Yao at PF? We'll get loads of rebounds as well as sinking 3, plus, Yao is not what u call "any player", and he used to shoot 3s before he joined NBA, but it seems that his coaches value his post plays more and stopped making Yao practice 3s. He's definitely not one of them who can only shoot 3s during warm up sessions. Maybe he's already forgotten it, but he can catch up soon if his coach wants him to. And i believe the Rox should go for a try.
     

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