exactly. i mean they put the music on a cd and say "give me money for this" so why not get money from somewhere else as well? i can't say anyone is "wrong" for not liking an artist "selling out" because they're free to feel anyway they want about an artist and if "selling out" makes them like the artist less, so be it. i just don't have any problem with it. if someone's basically willing to give you free money, i say take it. now if it was something like cigarettes which you completely didn't want to endorse then don't do it, but if you're just endorsing some frito lay potato chips, go for it. well to be fair it was pretty much known as the song no one had ever heard before the geico commercials. now people like me know it and like it. maybe to them endorsing something is a non-issue and people thinking of it as the geico song doesn't mean anything and as a benefit more people than ever know their music. i can't actually remember their name right now, lol, but i know the song. royksopp?
I just watched my first NCAA tourney game -- they're using a Jam song to sell trucks. No problem with that, it was the best part of dining experience.
But before the commercial, you may never have heard that song... There's no telling how many people now were introduced to a group they otherwise would never have heard from.
It doesn't make me like the artist less, it makes me think less of the "artist", or just not at all. Also, the term "artist" get's thrown around too loosely. It all depends on the integrity of the musician, the type of musician. You can't group all musicians as "money first, music second" types that put their music on a cd primarily for financial reasons. Rimbaud mentioned Nirvana, whose entire writing(lyrics and music) and memory is creditted to Kurt Cobain. A musician that pretty much was openly vocal in his stance against the compromising and misrepresentation of the integrity and sentiment of his music. So to sell his music for the cause of a baseball video game after he's long dead, is pretty much sickening. There were/are plenty of musicians/artists that felt/feel the same way about their music and music in total, that came before, or, just simply don't subscribe to the "punk rock anti-commercialism" general belief as reason for their musical protectiveness. It's not always about musical quality. There's more to being a musician than performing/writing music. The title "musician" itself is very diverse in meaning, as complex as is the word "human". It's why some music we cherish eternally with all our hearts, some we can't stand, some we take and leave with the times, some we fondly revisit as we grow, some we take our time to analyze, and some we spontaneously take to with a dance. And, it has nothing to do with "getting old".. Had the song been "Panama" by Van Halen in a car commercial, or "Sweet Child O Mine" in an advertisement for a hair product, I doubt this thread would've been created.
You are correct. The Cobain thing was what I meant about "blasphemy" because it would have been to him. But this thread was also about how the music did not in any way fit with the commercial/image on the screen. Seriously, grunge (and particularly that song about building a house and tree, etc) to describe baseball action? So it was even more pointless to blaspheme. And, yeah, it has nothing to do with age. There are already plenty of things from my childhood (way before Nirvana) that have been used in commercials, "Songs of" collections, etc..
Nirvana really stunk anyways. It's a shame that they got as big as they did while alot of good music got ignored in favor of that garbage. Cobain offed himself because he could see that eventually people would wake up and stop mindlessly buying the rubbish that he released. Hence his use of the quote "It's better to burn out than to fade away." And no, I really don't care if all of you disagree with me. The musical tastes on this bbs are pretty horrendous, much like the political views of most of this bbs.
What a bunch of mindless garbage. For someone who likes to whine about this BBS so much, many of us wonder why you're still here. If we can arrange a threesome with you, Jason Lane and Scott Stapp, will you promise to leave?
They must have sold just that song. It'a also a background track in Motorstorm. Curve - Hell Above Water Elite Force - Presha Elite Force ft. Lunatic Calm - Leave You Far Behind Everytime I Die - The New Black Gluecifer - Automatic Thrill Hyper - Hot Rockin' Kings of Leon - Sprial Staircase Krafty Kuts - Bass Phenomenom Monster Magnet - Powertrip Nirvana - Breed Pendulum - Slam Pitchshifter - Scene This Primal Scream - Dolls (Sweet Rock 'N' Roll) Primal Scream - The 99th Floor Queens of the Stone Age - Medication Reverend Horton Heat - Big Red Rock of Love Slipknot - Before I Forget Spiritualized - Electricity The Experiment - Cost of Freedom Trash Palace - Animal Logic Wolfmother - Woman
Its like an athlete playing sports since pre-K, moving up through the ranks until they become a professional and make sports their living. Then going on to say "I am NOT about commercializing my name and endorsing companies. I am a TRUE professional." Musicians sometimes can take themselves a little too seriously. They create music for people to enjoy (and purchase), but ONLY profit from the fans that buy their music? After signing deals with mega record companies and their distributors that promote their music to anyone and their grandparents (Nirvana included) ? Please.
Artists selling songs for ads is just a reflection of the state of the music industry today. Dudes are getting paid pretty much squat for CD sales...and people aren't going to shows unless it's for an established act. So everybody is trying to get into video games, TV shows, ads, movies, etc.
Courtney Love sold the song. Cobain is turning in his grave. Grohl or Novoselic should have the rights to everything. But whatever... And there is someone posting in this thread that needs to eat a D. You know who you are.
Nirvana started out on the indie label Sub Pop, and then signed a contract with Geffen. Why do you think they did that? I'm sure it had nothing to do with making more money.
Same reason Kurt started taking a more pop approach to his music around the same time. Also, it marked the first and last time Kurt allowed outside input into one of his albums. According to Dave and Krist.. Kurt wanted to get his music out to a larger audience, and Geffen was going to provide the financial backing necessary for that goal, more than an indie label. Unfortunately he hadn't anticipated how much larger the audience was going to get. If money had been the main reason, I doubt he would've taken the career-killing route of turning down large(as in amount of money he'd get paid) concert venues, publically downplaying and scoffing his success to the media, mocking and deriding his own popular songs and image especially in performance, revisiting his indie roots for his following albums instead of maximizing an already perfected money-making musical style. Etc etc.
From your quote of "I am a TRUE professional" to you going on about musicians that can take themselves too seriously.. I'm lost to how Nirvana's included.. Like I said, it is possible for a musician to take his music seriously without taking themself too seriously.
That should be : Like I said, you can't lump all musicians in together on this. It is possible for a musician to take his music seriously without taking themself too seriously.
