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Luther Head

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by texanskan, Mar 5, 2007.

  1. yaominn

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    it seems gay/swift for battier a very good trade, why cannot we do the same with head? head/wells should land us a decent pg.
     
  2. baller4life315

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    Take a look at the game logs -- when he plays (shoots) well, we win.

    As my sig states, I feel that right now he's a better version of Damon Jones. No, he's NOT a point guard but then again neither is Jones. The one thing Jones has over Luther right now is his decision making and ability to protect the ball. Luther absolutely HAS to work on making better decisions and cutting down on the stupid turnovers.

    If he can learn to cut down on the dumb mistakes, improve his PG skills, develop a mid-range jumper and get to the line more then we're set. The biggest hurdle he has in front of him right now is proving he's more than just a spot-up shooter since spot-up shooters cannot be relied upon night in, night out. Some nights you're going to be hot, some cold -- a complete player finds other ways when they're cold.

    NOTE: I made no mention of his defense because while I feel it's not great, he has made significant improvements in that regard from his rookie year and is athletic enough to hang with the quick guards. Simply said: I think he will continue to get better.
     
  3. Will

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    Is Luther really that stupid?

    I admit, I have a bias. I always figure big guys in the NBA can be stupid (see: Stromile Swift) because, well, hey, even if he's stupid, he's big and athletic, so he can make plays. Whereas, if you're small, you'd better be smart, or you're gone.

    I don't necessarily put much stock in how they interview. I mean, Sam Cassell could barely complete a sentence sometimes, and he was canny on the court even at an early age.

    Sometimes I get incredibly frustrated that we went into this season with a surplus of guards who seemed to have potential, and all we needed was for ONE of them to blossom, and we got nada.
     
  4. wnes

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    Actually Rafer can talk the talk, but how often do we see he walk the walk?
     
  5. wireonfire

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    So is Head a good pick for his draft position?
     
  6. Surfguy

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    Well, Head is one of our scrubs that needs to step it up if the Rockets are going to go far in the playoffs. His three can be spotty at times and is sometimes offset by his bonehead plays when he is handling the ball and not shooting. I don't see a lot of pressure on Head to play well. Who else would the Rockets have step up in his place if they benched him? Exactly.
     
  7. mac_got_this

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    *Stopped reading thread after third reply*

    Personally, I think after the alst few weeks that JVG is trying to mold Head into a Chris Childs/ Charlie Ward type player and using this time in the seaosn to give Head the experinece and pt to become a better player than what he is. You guys are too hard. Hey, this is how you develpoe players. YOu let em pklay and figrure it out, so of couse there goin to be a few bumps in the road. I mean, what you guys think goin happen once VSpan starts geting minutes. Its not goin be all perfect and smooth sailing. Hes goin to ahve a lot of bad times too. You jist got to tbe pateint and hope that they develope into what they're suppsoe to be/
     
  8. dreammvp

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    I agree with that 100%...he even looks like an air head...I think they need to just use him in spots for 3 point shooting only....his mintues should be distributed to Snyder...right now even his shooting is off and if this continues, then he brings nothing to the table....in my opinion, we should have shipped HEad and Bonzi when we had the chance before the trade deadline..i'm sure we could have gotten a decent PG in their place...
     
  9. YallMean

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    And Head was the one on the floor pushed the ball out of two rockets hand into Marshall's hand resulting in a 3 pointer. He is very one dimentional. He does best if he just catch and shoot.
     
  10. Duc_in_a_pond

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    DUDE I AGREE!!! I actually played poker with luther and some of the rockets players before. He seems a bit shy and quite, but he did not give me a "I'm a dumb ass blonde vibe."

    I think he as great bball iq! he tries to stick to his strength, which is 3 pointers. He doesn't try to dunk all the time because he know's he can't palm the ball. The reason you are mistaken for his low bball iq is because jvg is forcing him to split the time at the 1, a position he has never played. I mean, its like telling a radiologist to preform a triple by pass surgery.... Oh that Dr. must have a low IQ, he doesnt know how to do heart surgery...

    I'm sure Head will practice ball handling MORE this coming off season, and trust me!!! he's gonna improve every year
     
  11. texanskan

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    I guess asking Luther to be able to count to five is asking a little too much right?
     
  12. Duc_in_a_pond

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    Will, are you really that stupid?!?!

    for starters! you did not even make 1 comment about luther except for that he is stupid. And then you don't even give examples to why you think he is stupid!

    And interviews... have you ever spoken publicly before?? It has little to do with being intelligent, but instead has more to do with confidence/personality.

    BLOSSOM?!? head did not blossom?? he is leading the league in 3 pointers made and field goal% how is that not blossoming? I guess you were a r****d and thought that all guards would make a great pg... u think michael redd, one of the BEST guards in the league, could man the pt as well as rafer? im sorry I highly doubt it
     
  13. Duc_in_a_pond

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    I haven't watch any games recently, been out of houston, so I have no clue what your talking about here...

    So I guess he violated an in bound pass recently.. anyways, he's human, humans make errors... but that doesn't default him as stupid

    Look at C-webb... Everyone around the NBA association says webb has HIGH BBALL IQ... but in college he called a time out when there was no time outs left, which was a tech and a to, and that cost them the game.... That was STUPID, but he is still one of the smartest ballers of today
     
  14. ShadyMcGrady

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    If Luther Head just passed the ball to T-Mac every time McGrady asked for it his IQ would look a lot better.

    I like Luther, I think he's good, and he can hit the 3 that stretches the D, but he DOES need to play smarter otherwise it could be costly.

    If he's not a PG, fine, that's not his fault for being played as a PG, but he's got to give up the ball to T-Mac and camp on the perimeter because he will get the ball back.
     
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    don't let W-mac get a hold of this thread. to him, Luther is answer at point.
     
  16. RiceDaddy7

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    The reason why Luther is playing back-up point now is because Lucas is too small and V-Span is too much of a Greek cowboy. I didn't think it was Van Gundy's intention to have Luther be the backup point in the beginning of the season...circumstances has just made it that way.

    Circumstances:

    1.) We didn't expect Yao to get hurt and Tracy to carry so much of the offensive load. Tracy was supposed to be the alternate point guard when Rafer's at rest.

    2.) V-Span was supposed to be the sh*t. Instead, he got chances early in the season, had a bit of an attitude, and seemed a bit selfish and turnover prone. That's why Span isn't playing anymore.
     
  17. SlamIt

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    I'd agree we should not call any of our players stupid, and they are not. Instead, it is just that everyone has his strength and weakness.

    Based on my observation, Head simply does not make good decisions, and that is why he will never be a good PG. The same reason that he tends to turn over when he is trying to attack the basket. He is what he is, a good spot-up shooter who performs well under pressure. It is still a highly valuable asset to rockets. Should not ask him to be what he is not.
     
  18. monkeyboy32

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    I dont think Luther is very bright, and he certainly sucks at making decisions when under pressure. Its odd that he can hit pressured shots, but when he has the ball and is pressured, he just caves in.
     
  19. Will

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    Wow, it's really hard to know where to begin: with the fact that I was doubting, not affirming his stupidity; with your illiterate, prepubescent insults; or with your unintentionally hilarious question about whether I've ever spoken publicly. Suffice it to say that you are officially the dumbest poster ever to appear on this board, and after a decade and thousands upon thousands of contestants, that is quite a feat.

    Go away or we'll tell your mom you're using her computer.
     
  20. blender

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    I'd like to add a third: Luther is a great shooter during the fourth quarter and JVG wants him on the court with T-Mac at the 2 and Battier at the 3.
     

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