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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bchapman101, Mar 2, 2007.

  1. bchapman101

    bchapman101 Member

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    a magical replacement of:

    1) Rafer Alston by Jose Calderon

    2) Chuck Hayes by David Lee

    3) Luther Head by Josh Smith

    didnt mention superstars or huge contracts just to keep it more interesting

    if we get enough money together maybe I can go find a wizard somewhere to make it happen
     
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    about tree fitty
     
  4. NewYorker

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    A million billion trillion dollars!
     
  5. bchapman101

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    now thats what I like to hear
     
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    Um nothing...our players are better than those guys listed
     
  7. bchapman101

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    your signature would suggest otherwise....
    unless you were being sarcastic of course
     
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    This team would absolutely rock with calderon and lee on this team as they're infinitely better than alston and hayes. Not really a smith fan though.
     
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    Lets not forget Jeff Van Gundy for Rick Adelman.
     
  10. bchapman101

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    precisely
    the Josh Smith suggestion is just from what he did against us, changing almost every shot in the paint, blocking some, incredible leaping ability, nice rebounding
     
  11. yaopao

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    The idea that someone thinks that the Rockers are a Jose Calderon away from contention is funny.

    There aren't many PG's who are would be much diff than Alston. I love how people here like to harp on the fact that he takes as many/more 3's than he has assists. Of course he does, the offense we run asks him to take open shots rather than dribble for 20 seconds and try and pad his assists total.

    I'm not really sure what kind of PG people on here REALISTICALLY want or expect.

    Bottom line is that any PG we would have would need to operate well without the ball.

    My only beef with Rafer is that he tends to dribble too far to the basket and get caught in no-man's land. However, I do applaud his aggression. His 3-pt shooting is above-average, though it's inconsistent. However, there just aren't many consistent 3-pt shooting PG's around.

    Also, there aren't any PG's out there who would effectively help create transition offense other than Kidd. However, on this team, Kidd would just be a one-man fastbreak with no running mates.

    I feel like people are expecting Alston to be a 20 pts and 10 assists guy, while being the 3rd/4th option on offense.
     
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    dude, the thread suggested not only Calderon, but Lee and Smith, and you yourself just said "there aren't many consistent 3-pt shooting PG's around", well thats why I suggested Calderon, who shoots fantastically, AND, he leads the NBA in assist to turnover ratio, he is exactly what we need
     
  13. yaopao

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    Yes, and he plays in a system that is a complete 180 from what we run. Also, does he play any d? Does he make players better? You seem to have forgotten those questions and just wanted to pile onto the anti-Rafer movement that plagues this board.

    Getting caught up in gaudy, or in this case, not-so-gaudy stats from players on mediocre teams in the East creates too many knee-jerk trade proposals.

    You might as well say that the only thing the Rockets need is any GS PF from the last 10 years because they all are able to hit jumpers and rebound at a high-rate, judging by stats.

    I completely ignored the Lee and Smith proposals because those have a -100% chance of occurring. While the Rafer one has a -50% chance. I don't think there's any chance in hell the Raptors want Rafer back, but that's beside the point.
     
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    yep, no 3pt shooting with those 3 switches... but i do think having calderon would be nice.
     
  15. bchapman101

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    yaopao, read the thread, its not a trade proposal, its a wish, and again, Calderon leads in assist to turnover ratio, which means he is dishing out assists (making teammates better) AND shooting well, a rare combination, also, what makes you think Rafer makes his teammates better

    Im not piling on the Rafer stuff. I have thought he and Luther were awful from the start, back to last year.

    Have you seen Calderon play? Its not just stats, he is very good.
     
  16. yaopao

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    The fact that you think assists are an indicator of making players better really deters my belief that you know much about basketball. You do realize that getting assists rely on having the ball in your hands for a long time and making sure that the guy you pass it to makes the shot? This isn't a stat that says much about a player's value as it does the offense they run and the teammates a player has around him.

    FWIW, he's shooting 30% from downtown. That is something that's more vital than precious assist totals in our offense.

    Moreover, if you used your same logic prior to when the Rockets traded for Alston, you would probably wrongly assumed that Alston's high assist totals would mean he'd do the same for us. Or maybe you would have assumed that Mike James would have been the perfect fit for us this past summer, because his stats were pretty and surely they must directly carry over to Houston despite being a completely different situation.

    Your stats don't mean much to me, unless they are from within an offense that is ran similar to the Rockets.
     
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    your belief is detered that I know much about basketball? man you get upset too easily

    so the fact that I think assists is a good indicator of making your surrounding players better is faulty?? well, lets look at the greatest assist men of all time, Magic, Stockton, Cousy, Nash, Kidd, etc, those guys made everyone around them better and guess what??? they always led the league in assists! dude, look at the assist leader every year since basketball began, that player always makes everyone around them better, common man, it looks like to are just trying to pick a fight

    AND, I liked the Alston trade when it happened because we need a true point guard, but soon after was greatly dissapointed with his shooting and decision making, and no, I never wanted us to get Mike James back, that guy makes nobody better around him
     
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    Calderon made alston his b**** last game. However, conlangelo said earlier this year that calderon was untouchable.
     
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    yea, because Colangelo is a genius, and he knows Calderon is fantastic (yaopao, quit hating)
     
  20. Jeff

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    Les gets enough of my money already.
     

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