I heard Dunta and Moulds said some things about Carr today. don't have links but I'm sure there will be stuff to find soon enough. Supposedly Dunta saying it might be best for Carr to move on since he wasn't a leader etc. He was on cold pizza this morning. And Moulds on some radio show down there in houston today after he was let go. Just something I've heard, no links. take it for what its worth.
Yea I saw Dunta on cold pizza too. He sound as if he was ready to drive David Carr to the airport himself
Not calling you a liar, but I'd be surprised/disappointed if Dunta said it in those words. When the guy's still a teammate and there's a chance he might be one next season, that **** needs to be kept in-house.
If he had said anything close to that on a show televised on ESPN several hours go, I'd think it would be all over the Internet.
Im really wondering about this team becuase the moves they are making now sounds like the same thing the team did after year 3. Wasn't Moulds a team captain just something to think about.
He said Carr didnt get the job done this season and they asked him what did he think about Carr being dealt and he said "Maybe a change could be good for him.... who knows" I caught that last part of his interview.
the internet's not going to blow up over david carr. anyway, moulds said something like the line was an issue but carr has to take some responsibility also.
Yes. Yes, I do. The running game *did* improve the 2nd half of the season. The receivers, TE, and the o-line were better in varying degrees all year long. (The o-line wasn't top ten in the league, but even after injuries they were certainly better than last year.) So, yes, I believe had any other QB been in this system the results would be different. I'm not saying said QB would be Peyton Freaking Manning or that the Texans would have already made the playoffs (to attempt to shoot down the hyperbole-trumpeters before they even start)--only that a different QB would have performed differently in the same set of circumstances. And, that's a pretty reasonable conclusion, really. A worse QB than Carr would have looked even worse, and a better QB would have been better. I believe five years from now the reasonable conclusion will be that David was never really better than a mediocre NFL QB (of course there will still be those making excuses and blaming the early Texans experience). I was all over Max this time last year for calling my defense of David "excuses". But, David's performance this year has proven that that is exactly what they were: excuses. The guy is not an above average quarterback. He may not even be an average quarterback. ---I present all of this rambling opinion still hoping that the guy rises up and proves me wrong. I'm still a big fan of his and wish him the best. I really like the guy, I just think he peaked in college and is a mediocre to below-average NFL quarterback.
If that's so obvious, and we take it alongside your statment earlier... "Honestly, do any of you really believe that had over 95% of the QBs in the league had played in Houston the last five seasons that they wouldn't have nearly exactly the same five-year span as David Carr has?" ...to its logical end, are you saying that DC is as good as or better than 95% of the QBs in the league? (well, duh)
Well, honestly, yes. I really can't think of a QB that is so talented that they'd be able to overcome the things that David Carr has gone through the past five years. Do you disagree that he's played behind the collectively worst OL in his first five seasons of the league? It's not unreasonable to believe that the vast majority of QBs would fold under the same kind of pressure. Even guys like Manning and Brady I'm not convinced would've done much better had they started as rookies on a team like the Texans.
I know in the context of our conversation this statement isn't really unreasonable, but taken by itself it's a real head-turner! That's fair for the first four years. Last year everything got better and David did not. No, in fact I was one of the loudest voicing that fact last year this time. But how badly would they fold? That's my point. It's all surmise and conjecture at this point, but I have a hard time believing guys like Manning and Brady would crater this badly. They wouldn't be where they are, but I don't believe they'd be David Carr. I think there are other QB's that would have fared better (again, not pro-bowl or playoffs, just better). But, it's all surmise and conjecture.
See MM, I wasn't on crack in my analysis of locker room environment! DC's presence is bringing the clubhouse DOWN! The barometric pressure for the Texans with DC is catapulting to an ear-popping L-L-LOW! The Brass had better solve this conundrum soon or you may as well say bye to AJ and Dunta IMO after this season perhaps, sooner-could request a trade. They DON'T want to put up with another **** season with DC at the helm. Sorry Ric, but IMO this is NOT the best option. Staying pat in a poker game may work sometimes when you're trying to call an opponents bluff but, the Texans staying pat with the signal caller would spell almost certain disaster for this season. Would you like DC to against the likes of B-More and SD? God, those games have burial written ALL over IT! Hell, at least give us a fighting chance with DC in these games we have NO chance! No change at QB range: 4-12 to 7-9; depending upon FA and draft replenishment and improvement. Even with the Snake: at worst, 7-9 perhaps 9-7. Laugh all you want but Carr is NOT out best option. Problem right now the Texans brass are in a 32 team poker tournament. Right now, they are trying to bluff other teams into taking Carr and getting a high draft pick in return vice, having the other teams call their bluff and with them holding pocket deuces having to decide to fold-cut Carr and get no compensation or go "ALL IN"-force the other franchises hand and get into a bidding war. Man, what a position to be in. Good luck, Smitty! I don't envy your job in this case.
Exactly. That's what I have been saying all along. updawg, thanks for bringing that up. I hope someone YouTubed that Dunta interview.
thats it, i give up on buying NFL jerseys i got a Eagles Owens (gone) Dolphs Ricky Williams (gone) Michael Vick (might as well be gone) David Carr (see above) Andre Johnson (he's not going anywhere) and Moulds, i just bought the sob last week, i really didnt think he'd be cut after one season, almost as bad as owning a Petitte jersey...
i had a dream last night that for some reason we waived Domanick Williams, and then he signed on with the Saints as their starter. He figured he's go back to Louisiana and be awesome. Another one of our guys signed there in my dream, too. It was worse than it sounds.
there were games he had more time than others. and his mistakes down the stretch last season weren't because of continual pressure. at least that's not what i saw.
You think Carr is in the top 5% of QB's in the league (given that there are 30 starters, you're saying he's one of the 2 best QB's, or if you include backups, you think he's one of the 4 best QBs in the NFL), and then people say no one makes excuses for Carr?
it did, and guess what? the team did, as well. i repeat these numbers over and over, but they're so telling, imo: 3-3 when the team's leading rusher topped 63 yards, with 2 of the losses against buffalo and tennessee (both on the final play of the game). if this team had gone 8-8 and been competive in 13 of their 16 games... we'd all be blowing happy sunshine out of our asses. but rather than focus on what worked, and trying to find a way to make it work more often, we all want to focus on carr, even though he was the QB in all 6 of those games. that is the root, foundation, crux of my stance - you can win with david carr. you may not win because of david carr, but then, no team wins because of the QB. i'd rather keep him where he is and beef up the OL and find a game-changing back who can do far more often than not what ron dayne did against the colts.
