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Cato and Moochie news.....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by r-fan-since-81, Sep 26, 2001.

  1. r-fan-since-81

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    On fox 26, they interviewed Cato. Cato says he is about 90% healthy today.


    Fagen has asked Clyde Drexler (a former client) to help in negotiations with Mooch and the Rackets. Additionally, Marc Berman reports that Fagen has presented several different sign and trade senerious, if the rockets and Moochie can not agree.
     
  2. ROCKETBOOSTER

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    sorry r-fan-81 just saw your topic. :cool:

    Cato looked ready to go. He's saying all the right things but can he walk the talk?

    He did say he was hurt last season and it was frustrating because he gave his all which he admitted amounted to nothing, thats how bad he was hurting while on the court. This year is his opportunity he said and he will prove guys like Rockets03 wrong although he's still only about 90%.

    *note:the above are not exact quotes
     
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  3. KeepKenny

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    He sat out for most of the year, and i imagine he took the summer off. Why is he only 90%?! Must be the slowest healing person to ever live. What has he done recently that would injure him?
     
  4. r-fan-since-81

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    Cato also said that Keith Jones (Rockets trainer) helped him more than anybody to make him understand that his failure is only temporary. For instance, when Cato screwed up and Rudy benched him Cato would get pissed . Keith kept telling him that when he gets healthy, he will prove everyone wrong, and he will get his chance then.

    On a sidenote, now we know why he hasnt been involved in any trades or played in the SL games. Give me a break, 90% what a joke.
     
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  5. kidrock8

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    I call BS on Cato's "injury". I just hope it's not some ploy to get a new contract ala Olajuwon in 92.

    If Cato's injury were so serious as far back as last year, then why would the Rockets say that Cato would be in the Summer Leagues in the first place?

    What has he done in the summer to get hurt? Cashing his checks?
     
  6. R0ckets03

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    I never said he did not have the potential. I would love it if he proves me wrong, but until he does.....HE SUCKS!!!!!!
     
  7. Stevierebel

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    Cato is full of BS. He sounds like he will be the next great thing but you guys and I know differently. I will believe it when I see it.
     
  8. heypartner

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    good!

    imo. this is a sign that Fegan is on the run. Let's take stock in what we know for a second.

    <ol><li>Fegan pulled two unwanted sign-n-trades with no mediator needed.
    <li>Those two players (who's names escape me at the moment) clearly were ready for a change, and expected a payday to boot.
    <li>Fegan barely discusses those trades in the press, certainly never makes a veiled threat of a sign-n-trade.
    <li>Jonathan Feigan of the Chronicle quotes Moochie as saying he has been playing with Cat and Steve all summer.
    <li>Jonathan Feigan reports today that there is zero sign of progress with Moochie
    <li>oeilpere says there is an agreement
    </ol>

    Notice how quickly Fegan was able to move on the first two sign-n-trades. He did not want to talk of any negotiation of salary. He did not even really use the media, much less "mediators" like Drexler. The fact Fegan even gets histrionic on us with a hometown hero as a mediator and mentions sign-n-trades tells me Moochie is not OK'ing a trade...or else he would be gone by now.

    Jonathan Feigan and oeilpere may appear to be contradicting each other, but I doubt it. Feigan is probably referring to "official" progress on terms. oeilpere's source could likely be talking about Moochie's obvious preference for staying and telling CD that.

    To me, it looks like Moochie wants to stay and Fegan and CD are bluffing each other merely on contract terms. At some point, the bluffing falls on Moochie. I think CD is not budging off of the dollar amount, and Moochie will blink.
     
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    crispee-opie also said Shandon was close to staying in Houston.

    It'll come down to who has more pull - Francis/Mobley/CD vs. Fegan/slightly higher money.

    It's also a sign IMO, that the Moochie market is not that much above what Houston is offering, if anything. The deal Shandon got from NY was a good 10 mill of what Jeff/opie heard he was getting from Houston.

    Certainly seems like Fegan is trying to threaten with S/T options to get the deal where he wants it $$-wise, even if it means elsewhere, but Moochie seems content with staying where he is.
     
  10. heypartner

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    I don't understand that statement.

    Nikestrad,

    Let's say CD will pay $2.5m. What is the difference between $2.5m and $3.25 (which opie mentioned, i believe)?

    That is a 30% difference, which is the identical difference between Mobley's salary and that of the guy we traded for Rice. Can we assume that we were willing to give that guy the full Early Bird? They are the same percentage difference. Don't downplay Moochie's difference when the percentages are the same. I think the market can indeed land him $3.25. Who ever thought someone would pay $5.333m for a backup defensive specialist who can't dribble or shoot?

    Further, if we are offering 3 yrs and Moochie wants 6 yrs, that is a huge difference, no matter what the difference in start salary. Just because one guy makes $5.333m starting salary, and got a difference of $1.233m start/$10m over 6yrs, doesn't mean Moochie's difference of $750k is small change.

    I'm still of the opinion that Moochie would be gone right now if he was willing to go. It all adds up. He is not gone, because he is playing a bluffing game, and he will not win this game. I've always said bluff Moochie, and I would blink on the second day of camp. But that is because I feel the 3-guard set is absolutely vital now that Mo' is down.

    But I am not CD. I think CD is pissed, and he will not blink on principle.
     
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    90% of SUCKS is SUCK^
     
  13. Holden

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    yep already been posted sorry

    :eek:
     
  14. kidrock8

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    Fu(k Moochie.

    Rockets should play hardball and let Moochie either sign with the Rockets, or attempt to sign with another team with the minimum. What the hell could we get for him in a S&T? I think he's vastly overrated by some posters here who say he's the best backup PG in the league. He has absolutely no jump shot, is no threat to score since his height limits his ability to get layups over anyone, and he has no defense.

    The Rockets need a big PG, kinda like a Brian Shaw or Ron Harper-type guy. We need a backup PG who can shutdown the other team's PG, since Franchise has yet to shown any kind of defensive skill whatsover.

    Also, with the new rules, having tall perimeter guys is a must. Since the league changed to an 8 second half court rule, I expect more teams to press the ball full court. Having tall defenders at guard would help, and having tall ball handlers would help get by the traps.
     
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    HAHA Fegan, why stop at Drexler? I'm sure you can get Hakee, Charles, Calvin and Moses to vouch for you! You're screwed pal, fire him now Moochie and get a couple of mill and help us win!

    So he's 60% healthy?
     
  16. bigboymumu

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    I have been working out also. I think I can lead the league in rebounds like Cato did last year.
     
  17. LAfadeaway33

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    I remember Cato being injured in a minor way but I didnt know that it was anything that would keep him from training during the summer and reporting to camp at 100%.
     

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