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What if Kidd ends up with the Lakers, what does that mean to the Rockets?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wreck, Feb 21, 2007.

  1. wreck

    wreck Member

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    I dont know if this belongs in the GARM but I think it directly affects the rockets sooner or later

    As many of you know, the Lakers are the "front runners" to land kidd, what would this mean for the playoff picture?

    Frankly Im surprised that the Lakers are doing so well with just Kobe, I mean Odom is a great player on paper but I dont think he is an all star player that really compliments Kobe, so basically Kobe is doing it on his own. With Kidd that would just give the Rockets a harder team to face in the playoffs when they get out of the first round.

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  2. Astockmarketgod

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    better question would be why are we not even in the running...

    just like with A.I

    we are no where near the picture with Kidd or even Bibby...

    this Rockets Team has alot of heart... but you can only go so far with that...

    Tmac and Yao won't be able to do it alone... they need a legit 3rd scorer or threat...

    atleast throw the hat in the ring ... and say were interested....
     
  3. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    First, I don't think you give Odom nearly enough credit. That guy is a hell of a support player. And you don't think he really compliments Kobe? That's insane. He's perfect for his role with Kobe. If you needed Odom to carry your team, you'd be screwed. He doesn't seem to want the responsibility - and if he did want that responsibility he'd probably be a terrible fit with Kobe. But because he doesn't, he's basically a perfect compliment to Kobe. A guy like Kidd or Nash are just about the only players I can think of who'd be a better fit beside Kobe. For that matter, I'm not sure that you give the rest of his supporting cast enough credit. Bynum looks very promising and Luke Walton is looking great this year.

    As for the Lakers making that trade - I hate it. I hate seeing the Western Conference get tougher. However, I don't think the Lakers could give us much trouble even with Kidd.

    I saw a poster earlier talking about how the Suns don't match up well with the Lakers and the Suns would be likely to meet them in the playoffs again this year. Well, we match up terribly with the Suns so if the Lakers could bump the Suns out of the playoffs, I'd be pleased as punch.
     
  4. randomdude

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    Throwing " the hat in the ring" creates internal problems between players and the organization
     
  5. Sextuple Double

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    He isn't going anywhere. They're not moving Kidd unless they could move Carter also, and the Lakers aren't giving up Bynum for Kidd.

    If such an unlikely event happen, the media will put them on the level of Mavs, Suns, and Spurs. And be warned, the Rockets will never, ever be mentioned in the media again. The Rockets will cease to exist everywhere except for in the heart of the fans. Last time I heard the top teams in the West were Mavs, Suns, Spurs, Jazz, Lakers, Nuggets.
     
  6. ElPigto

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    How exactly do you want us in the picture? Please explain the wonderful trade that's in your head that would give us a legit chance of acquiring such talent.
     
  7. xiki

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    The question I have is how well would Kidd/Kobe mesh? Kobe, like D-Wade, Bron, and #1, T-Mac, are all more effective when they are facilitating the O.
     
  8. F.D. Khan

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    I think a team with Kobe, Kidd and Odom would be a disaster.

    All three of them need the ball to thrive and are not consistent
    outside shooters. Teams would fill up the middle and not worry
    about the outside. They would be very tough on the defensive end
    and would be very dangerous on the fast break, but would be
    a disaster within a half-court setting.

    I think LA would be a better version of the current nets team right
    now with Kobe being better than Carter and Odom a combination
    of Jefferson/Kristic with more versatility. LA seemed to be playing its
    best ball running the old Bulls offense with a sweet shooting tall point
    and a point forward Odom (like Pippen) initiating the offense.

    I think LA would not give up Bynam as it is and deals this speculated
    upon are rarely done.

    Just as i'm not concerned with Iverson and Anthony, Kidd and the Lakers doesn't scare me much either. I'm more concerned with Dallas, Phoenix
    and San Antonio.
     
  9. dookiester

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    I thought Odom was playing great when Kobe was out, but that when they're on the court together Odom either loses his fire or just doesn't know whether he should be assertive or wait for Kobe to feed him. Similar to the way we haven't really seen Yao and T-mac dominate together at the same time; even though we know their capable, it hasn't been actualized. So, being perfect complements to each other, and perfectly complementing each other, might be 2 substantially different things.
     
  10. count_dough-ku

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    It doesn't mean anything to the Rockets unless they end up facing the Fakers in Round 1. Which is unlikely since we're probably not gonna end up with the 3rd seed and Utah can't drop lower than the 4th seed regardless of their record if they win their division.
     
  11. McGradyFTW

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    I would also like to hear this magical combination of wonderful talent we have that everyone wants.
     
  12. Deuce

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    Kidd improves the Lakers.

    But from my perspective, if we can land Mike James for Sura+Lucas I say who carse about Kidd and the Lakers? Bring them on!
     
  13. sbyang

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    Rod Thorn is the man who managed to get Vince Carter for a bag of peanuts. I don't think he's going to trade Kidd to LAL for the package that's being talked about now. If Kidd goes to LAL the Nets WILL get Bynum, Bynum is probably the only reason NJ even talks to LAL about Kidd.
     
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    If the basic purpose of a PG in the triangle offense is to essentially stand at the 3-pt line and shoot three's what exactly is the point of bringing in a guy that can't shoot? That's what I don't understand.
     
  15. TTRocket

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    Kidd is not a good fit on the Lakers. First of all, Kidd is old, overrated and isn't that good.

    Most importantly, the Lakers aren't a fastbreaking team and they run a triangle offense which requires their PG be able to knock down open shots. Kidd is notorious for being a terrible shooter and he would be a bad fit for them. If the Lakers got Kidd I still wouldn't consider them better than Houston or Utah.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    better question would be why are we not even in the running

    with what to offer? besides tmac and yao (and throw battier in there) the rockets dont have that many assets that other teams would consider valuable enough to be a front runner for those players.
     
  17. steddinotayto

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    I think, right now, it's imperative that the Lakers get some consistent production out of their front court players (namely Bynum and whenever Brown decides to show up) than getting Kidd. An average of 25 and 15 between the two of them would do wonders for their team. Heck, if Bynum can average 15 and 8 (up from his 8 and 6 average this year) from here on out, it would do the Lakers a lot more than having Kidd on their team.
     
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    Except Odom is not playing like that right now.

    Especially not when it's the fourth quarter
     
  19. MrButtocks

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    Kidd's a better shooter than you give him credit for. He can hit it when open, he's not Andre Miller here. They're probably hoping that his rebounding, defense, and playmaking ability would more than make up for the slight downgrade in shooting ability over Smush Parker.

    However, I still don't think he'd be all that great for the lakers. Leondro Barbosa would probably be a better fit for them and he's not even a natural PG. Mike James two years ago would be a better fit for them. Kidd doesn't make them contenders.
     
  20. amathie

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    I don't like this trade much. J Kidd is old now and has a huge contracts. Smush Parker is doing great. If Kidd got traded to lakers, i doubt they can re-sign parker next year. Same situation as years when Spurs was trying to sign kidd, when they had tony parker.
     

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