Public Opinion Strategies: 56% of Americans believe...

Wow a whopping 56%.

 

Yeah, I'd be more impressed if it was a majority of Americans.

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Oh.

 

So I guess that a significant part of the the 66% or so of people who have disapproved of the way he's handled the war for the last year or thereabouts are inconsistent and intellectually dishonest, such as people like basso.

 

Once in a while Basso actually posts something valid....and then we get to see the radical liberals like Sam Fischer try to slime it.

It's a shame civil debate was thrown out.

American are not happy with Bush, and even less happy about the war....but they still believe that America has a responsibility to finish the job, and that we should stand behind the country. Ya know, that's a bit refreshing.

 

No, it's not refreshing. It's frightening. People realize that the war was a huge mistake, yet they aren't interested in holding to account those responsible? Yikes.

 

It's about credibility. Even a broken analog clock is right twice a day.

The best political outcome isn't whether a war had a right justification, but whether we win or have the appearance of winning within a time frame. It's partly why Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz promised a speedy and victorious outcome.

 

It's also an exercise in meaningless word games, like pretty much anything basso posts about the war and how much he supports it by posting on a basketball message board . But anyway you and basso have fun discussing whatever important lesson you want to learn from this, at least maybe you will make some e-friends instead of having people complain about you being an ******* all the time.

 

Hrmm, Public Opinion Strategies....POS....it certainly is a POS poll.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Public_Opinion_Strategies

 

Number of posts to attack the source: 9.

Cash out.

 

Hyperbolize much?

 

so in that case 56% think you should stand behind the president just because the country is at war. and they should not have an opinion anymore. Great. That is stupid, I wouldn't be proud of that percentage.

 

I see, so you have gone from calling me a turd to an *******? I least you are moving from the 5th grade to the 6th.

Glad you are able to stand above small things and maintain a level of civil discourse without resorting to calling people names to hide your own inadequecies. Guess you learned a lot from 16,000 posts. Did you make a lot of e-friends?

 

To you maybe. I think 90% of what Basso pushes is garbage, but I am willing to take what he says as serious when it's valuable. That's what having an open mind is about. Closed minded people tend to write people off. That's true arrogance. To label someone and judge them, then close to book on them....that's done more for the preservation of one's reality then in the interest of learning or exploration.

Regardless of political outcome, you're ignoring American core values, which this poll is pointing to. It's something that transcends Bush or Congress.

 

You can give him second chances, and maybe you want others to give you second chances after yanking their chains. There's been several other opportunities for genuine discussions with Basso. Those opportunities in his topics generally devolve into another form of entertainment. There's also a different social element when it comes to the net that isn't addressed.

And thanks for labeling people who don't agree with you as truly arrogant.

I don't know how transcendent a contradictory and confused an 800 member poll can be.

60% say that Iraq will never become a democracy, yet 53% thinks that victory in Iraq, "that is creating a young, but stable democracy and reducing the threat of terrorism", is possible.

The 57% who thinks Iraq is central in the war in terror are probably the same people who thinks Saddam is responsible or had a hand in 9/11. Too bad they didn't ask that question. Another question can be whether people think the Iraqi front in the war in terror our cause or organic.

The political outcome of the current war always affects the next war. The first Iraq War ended swiftly despite options to uproot Saddam because Bush 1 didn't want it to become another Vietnam. Our next war will have fears of it becoming another Iraq.

 

Shockingly, more than you.

Have fun with basso in the sandbox.

 

Yeah this thread had a lot of potential for serious discussion, and basso has proven himself really flexible on discussing the Iraq war in the past, what with labeling everybody who disagrees with him (which is most of America at this point) as traitors.

Anyway, your disgust is noted for the record.

 

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