ClutchFans Game Thread: Mavericks @ Rockets 2/15/2007

no need for caps. i thought 16/17 year olds were more mature.

 

who are u . u like following me n ****

 

Having no timeout left when the team was in desperate need of an in-bound pass from the half court, what a great job, JVG.

 

word on tha streets did ya'll hear that chauncey billups contract is almost up?

OMG IF WE GOT HIM HE'D ASSIST SO FUKN MUSH LOL . HE'D BE THE BEST FIT FOR OUR TEAM . HIM OR JASON KIDD. WE'D WIN THE FINALS IN A HEARBEAT .

WAT DO YA'LL THINK?

 

When yao gets back I think Tmac should guard Dirk full time.

Dirk is helpless vs Tmac. If we can limit Deuchebag to under 10 points, I don't see how they can beat us. So Tmac won't score as much, so what, yao can carry the scoring load and its not like Tmac will be THAT tired. Dirk has the speed of my little sister.

 

Please think logically. There is no sane way that Billups, Kidd or Bibby will be coming to Houston. Their massive salaries (with the sole exception of Billups) would mean trading multiple players to get them, and with Billups Joe Dumars is not Isiah Thomas. I like getting Francis though.

 

Except Dirk flops and whines twice as much as my little sister. -_-

 

NOT EVEN BILLUPS DIP SHIP**** MIKE JAMES WE CAN GET. PLUS THE KNIOCKS JUSS BOUGHT OUT STEVE FRANCIS CONTRAT AND HES IN HOUSTON RIGHT AS IM SPEAKING. SO HE CAN PRATCICE WITH US NEXT SEASON. AND YEA DIRK CRIES TOO DAMN MUCH N WEN YAO COMEZ BAK ITZ OVA

 

was watchin nba tv, an interview with yao and josh howard in las vegas...they were askin yao when he'd be back...and he said "def. 2 weeks...and howard said, dang im glad we're done with yall this season...then yao says....not till the playoffs....then they were like oooohhh! hell yea fool...yao and tmac gonna sweep em!

 

if you think dirk will score 10 points or less in any game in a 7 game series, you are absolutely DELUSIONAL.

it's alright to hate dirk , but this is just insane.

 

I really despise all the Mavs fan...they're all such a ****en joke. I CANNOT WAIT FOR YAO TO COME BACK SO WE CAN SLAP THEIR SORRY ASSES BACK TO REALITY.

 

charlie murphy!! you said it! God willing we will face them in the playoffs and show them how it really goes down when we are at full strength

 

sorry. what I mean is to trade Sara to get a backup pg.

 

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lol...finantially?

 

I keep trying to tell you guys - I have known Marty Schottenheimer since he was a defensive coordinator for the Browns a long time ago. And Jeff van Gundy has all of the symptoms of Marty Schottenheimer disease.

He will beat all the dogs. He will believe in his system 100%. he will refuse to adapt his system in the face of greatness and the Elways of the league will toast him game after game. In this case it will be the Suns, Spurs and especially Avery and the Mavs.

And the solution is learning from others and using the tools sitting on his bench.

I am cursed to live in cities where almost great coaches lead us on to disappointment.

 

Don't even start to compare the Rockets bench vs. the other teams you just mentioned... we have a MISMATCH at every single position against us when we play the Mavs (with the exception of T-mac... who cancels out Dirk).

Yao is the difference maker... and since we're paying both him and T-mac max dollars, its the reason why our role-players can't be as talented/marquee as some of these other teams.

But, if they're both there, you can't stop them both. And the Mavs are the ONLY team the Rockets cannot beat without Yao. If T-mac is on, he can destroy the Suns, Spurs, Jazz, and Lakers by himself... but he can't do that to the Mavs.

 

Interesting......and I hope you are incorrect.

DD

 

JVG and Marty are very different animals. At least JVG made the Finals once while Marty hasn't sniffer a Super Bowl.

You are just another broken record who says JVG is stubborn and stuck in his ways. The thing is EVERY successful NBA coach is stubborn and stuck. Name your coach: PJ, Pop, Riley, etc. Each one of them is very rigid in how they do things. Like JVG has already done with Yao and Tracy, they tweak their systems to fit players.

Go take a cold shower and maybe you will feel better. Also read up a bit on Tony Dungy. He fits your Marty description much better than JVG and won a Super Bowl this year.

 

I agree here - with Yao - we have the only thing that can beat the Mavs.

Our hope has to rest on this:

1. We have a healthy Roster
2. We do not run into the Suns in the playoffs. Sorry - but we don't even get close to beating them, and Yao is ineffective against the Suns. Our only hope is to not have to play them.
3. T-mac's game does not suffer when Yao returns, and yet Yao is able to play aggressively without being the center of the offense all the time.

 

from Wikipedia:

Under Dungy's watch, the Buccaneers went to the playoffs four times times and won their division in 1999 only to lose to the St Louis Rams in the NFC Championship Game. Despite the team's progressing success, Dungy was fired by the team in 2001 due to the club's repeated losses in the playoffs — most notably, two lopsided defeats (in 2000 and 2001) to the Philadelphia Eagles— and because it was determined by the team's higher management that the conservative offense that Dungy ran was too inconsistent against NFL teams. The following year, the Buccaneers easily defeated the Philadelphia Eagles in the 2002 NFC Championship game under coach Jon Gruden en route to the club's first Super Bowl appearance and victory.

On January 22, 2002, Dungy was hired as head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, a team that at the time was very potent offensively, but very weak defensively. He installed his "Tampa 2" defense immediately and ever since has set about retooling the Colts' defense to his liking. Since joining the Colts, Dungy has left the high-powered offense previously installed there by Jim Mora, in both playing style and in personnel, virtually unchanged. Dungy would be reunited with Tom Moore, who was retained as offensive coordinator. Moore and Dungy had previously worked together at Minnesota and Pittsburgh.

Although Dungy is listed as a part of the Marty Schottenheimer coaching tree, the Dungy tree grew from the roots of the Pittsburgh Steelers' dynasty of the 1970s. He was influenced by the defensive schemes learned under Chuck Noll and Bud Carson.[6] Dungy said that he inherited most of the coaching philosophies from Noll and he is proud be a protégé of Noll. this means he is a more aggressive defensive coach than Marty while also keeping the more aggresive offensive schemes he inherited. So overall I guess he is more aggresive than Marty.

Schottenheimer invented the prevent defense which prevents only one thing against the Elways - victory!

JVG - when was the last time you saw the Rockets under JVG even attempt to apply a full court press against anyone? He finally started using the zone this year - so I guess he can learn. But everything is "system", no surprises, no adaptation, no trying to throw the opponent off kilter - which of course
Chuck Noll was very good at doing - figure out a big weakness of your current opponent and exploit it.

Marty and JVG seem incapable of thinking outside the box at critical moments, and seem incapable of seeing weaknesses and adaptations that others see. Or another way to say it is they seem incapable of risking trying something outside of their system.

It's like this - the system may work 97% of the time but the game demands that when those critical 3% of situations present themselves that you be adaptable and willing to accept the risk of doing something that your opponent cannot anticipate.