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Bonzi Wells or Kirk Snyder?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ind0fo0, Feb 10, 2007.

  1. BlakeB

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    Bonzi is more valuable right now, and when he gets healthy he's gonna help carry this team a long way. Don't underestimate Snyder's current value though, in 10-15 mins a night he can help us a lot with his athleticism and size. Snyder definitely has a place in our championship runs over the next 5 years. When Snyder comes completely into his own in a year or two he will be the ultimate roleplayer or 6th man.
     
  2. akuma

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    maybe once upon a time, Juwan was the clearly better player. like his first five years in the league. i am, however, largely speculating that Bonzi will eventually (hopefully) get healthy and in shape. i also take in consideration the fact that Juwan is all of 34 years old and getting older, although currently in much better shape than Bonzi. Juwan is also currently in a max MLE contract and is considered by many to be grossly overpaid and untradeable despite the league's willingness to overspend for marginally decent big men.

    for their careers, their shooting percentages are very close; 46.9% for Juwan opposed to 46.3% for Bonzi. keep in mind that Juwan attempts almost no 3s a game to lower his field goal percentage although he has become an excellent free throw shooter as opposed to Bonzi who is at best a mediocre free throw shooter. neither are very efficient, so it will likely come down to who plays their role better.

    unless the entire last season (including that amazing postseason) was a fluke, Bonzi has shown to be a superior rebounder than either Juwan or Shane currently are. Bonzi has rarely ever posted up PFs, but it would still be a stretch to say that his inside game although quite different is worse than Juwan's.

    Juwan has never been known for his defense (man-to-man or team), and is constantly burned by opposing players. Bonzi has had better stats for his career regarding steals and blocks. as for all of Juwan's BBall IQ, he still hasn't played well with Yao in 2 1/2 seasons.

    i don't know how i would qualify Juwan's leadership. i hear about his work ethic and so called professionalism. most of his leadership is supposedly in the locker room, but who knows how that translates on the court. he did have that moment where he stood up for Yao when Desmond Mason was an absolute punk. of course Rafer did the same for T-Mac. Juwan does "hustle" a bit more.

    what i do know is that Bonzi still has the ability to create his own offense as well as draw double teams, which to a degree can create for others. his court vision, having played in the backcourt for much of his career, is better. the bottom line is that Bonzi is probably far more valuable to a Rockets championship run than Juwan. how or if he fits into that remains to be seen.
     
  3. RocksMillenium

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    Exactly. It's stupid to ask which one gives us the best chance when we have both. Neither one of them, alone, is going to get us to the Finals. But getting everyone healthy and on the same page gives us our best chance at a championship.
     
  4. RocksMillenium

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    Why would it be highly unlikely they both get minutes? It just seems to me that you don't like Wells so you want to make this a Bonzi Wells vs Kirk Snyder thing. We have both of them, so enjoy it.
     
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    Any man who completely owns Bruce Bowen for an entire series has a place on my team come playoff time.
     
  6. ind0fo0

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    the Bonzi we have seen this year is MUCH better at passing (inredible passing IMO)... and post up, i would slot Bonzi over JHO
     
  7. ind0fo0

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    watch the press conference of JVG, then talk.
    he said that after he decides which one helps more, only ONE of them will be in the Rocket's rotation. THAT is why the choice 'both' does NOT exist.

    got it? :rolleyes:
     
  8. Danbury

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    why is this a poll? The Rockets have both of these players. Perhaps a poll about these two guys playing time.
     
  9. ind0fo0

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    "Perhaps" you should read the thread before posting... Which player can contribute more in the rotation? ;)
     
  10. Rollazn

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    Why can't they play together? JVG, I understand wants to have a 8 man rotation. But why can't they play together? Bonzi Wells is a great scorer - he can definitely be our third option once Yao gets back. Snyder is very athletic and can slash and score. Their both solid in rebounding.

    Is there a good reason why JVG can't play them in the same rotation?
     
  11. Chronz

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    They dont really compliment eachothers game the way Luther does for Bonzi. Unless they play head exclusively at the 2 when Rafer isnt in the game its going to be hard to find minutes for everyone, hopefully he can work something out.
     
  12. aamir

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    Definately both, though I'd give Bonzi more guaranteed minutes. Kirk should be more dependent on his play/Luther's play...

    From the Mavs game thread:
     
  13. kaleidosky

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    Bonzi is the obvious choice. When this team is healthy, we need a real post option off the bench. Bonzi is a deep post option with Juwan periodically being that. And if Juwan remiains the starter, then we REALLY need Bonzi to be that post option off the bench.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    There's 6 guys on the Rockets Roster who can play the SG or SF spot

    There's only 96 minutes per game for the two slots.

    Break them down like this:

    McGrady 35+
    Battier 35+

    That leaves 26 minutes to divide up between Head, Snyder, and Wells. Playing a guy for less than 10 minutes a game just for the sake of having a longer bench is kind of silly, IMO, so effectively it's 3 guys compeing for two spots.

    I know people want to put Wells in out of position at PF but I don't like that scenario, I think he gets eaten up by most of the decent PFs in the west. He apparently has never really played it much before so I don't see any reason why that scenario works.
     
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  15. dividend

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    I'll choose both...

    But I still have concerns that T-Mac/Battier/Bonzi/Snyder play the same position SG/SF and that most of the time, we'd only be able to have 2 of them on the floor at the same time.
     
  16. rn_xw

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    I'm sure Yao would do that perfectly
     
  17. txppratt

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    if bonzi plays SG with tmac @ PG and battier @ SF, we can really tear **** up.

    bonzi all the way... he is PROVEN talent. snyder is not.
     
  18. Rockets#1fan

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    I think that Kirk Snyder is more valuable to this team. And atleast he can shoot 3's. Also, he can do some nice dunks that gets the crowds into the game. I'm not saying that bonzi is a bad player, i want both of them to be on the team.
     
  19. W-Mac

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    Im with you....I think Both should be playing and that Rafer's minutes should go down.
     
  20. kerry Mckee

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    Both! Get them both healthy and keep them!
     

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