I was talking to some people and someone mentioned that maybe Deke should have a banner for his new accomplishment. Not likely. It is kind of wierd to put up a #2 banner, but its not really any different than putting up a Division Champions banner either I suppose. Wondering what the rest of the fans think about honoring Dikembe with that?Any chance we're gonna see a new banner next to Dream's at the Toyota Center next home game?
This is not 5th grade field day when everyone gets a ribbon. As far as a division title or a conf title you play to win your divison first then conf/league so yes the team has the right to put that up even though it is not the ultimate prize. What makes me crack up is when the Astros put the "wild card champion" banners up. Give me a break.
Nah, Dream's made sense since he holds the all-time record and was a Rocket for all but one year of his career. This would just be a sign that the organization is desperate to hang a banner. It would be like when the Mavs hung up that banner for A.C. Green's consecutive games streak just because he accomplished it in his one season with them.
Exactly, the wealth of Mutombo's blocks came while he was a Nugget and Hawk. Recognition, yes. Banner, no. Evan
It is MUCH harder to come out of the NL as a wild card, than it is to make the playoffs in the NBA (let alone win your division... see the Atlantic division this year). A league where more teams make the playoffs than don't.... now THAT is a joke.
If we win it all this year, then I think Deke's jersey and records will be retired, just to honor what he has done for us (winning a championship). otherwise, it would be unlikely especially since the #1 all time is Hakeem.
I dunno, I think he deserves a banner in TC. 2nd all time in blocks is a huge deal... we can put it right by Hakeem's "1st all time", and I think it's okay because Deke has been a Rocket for more than one year. It's been three years, and if he comes back next year it'll be 4. Not only that, but he has been a great back up center for our team, likely the best backup center in the league... and he deserves recognition for his great achievement.
If we're speaking about banners... how much of a joke is it that the AEROS and COMETS banners at TC look more impressive than the Rockets ones. At most NBA arenas around the country, the NBA team gets top billing... and all of their conference/division championships are hung INDIVIDUALLY to create a wave of "accomplishment" for that team. The Rockets lumped all 4 western conference titles, and all the division titles on to TWO banners total... and their championship banners are far less impressive than most other team's. Fix those first... then worry about a meaningless shot block record (that doesn't take into account the number of shots blocked by Russel/Chamberlain back in the day).
Deek will get recognized when he goes to the HOF as one of the greatet defensive centers of all time. Hanging a banner for something like this cheapens the worth of all the banners imo.. SAve that for the *really* important stuff, like Division champs, NBA Champs and retired numbers of *true* Rockets legends who made an impact on the team for a long term. ie...Dream, RudyT, Calvin, Im torn on the Clyde one since he wasnt here for that long...but he DID put us over the top for the repeat...so I give him some leeway...adn eventho MOses didnt stay here his entir career, he still made a significant impact on the franchise...and is one of my alltime favs from when I was a kid.
There are six divisions in basketball and six in baseball where is the difference. NBA teams don't put up banners for 6th seed As far as the atlantic that is just a fluke things balance out. The NL central was a joke last season. NL west year before
you seriously don't see the difference? That 4 teams make the playoffs per league in baseball and 8 per conference in basketball? i.e. twice as many? Why are you only counting divisions? Wild card is something that was fought for. And there's only 1 of them (unlike the NFL)
There are FOUR playoff spots per league... there are EIGHT playoff spots per conference. Just based on that simple math, winning the Wild Card in baseball is the equivalent of being the #4 seed (and winning your division) in the NBA... not the #6 seed. And thats without taking into account unbalanced schedules and a longer season of baseball (vs. the exact same schedule for every western conference and eastern conference team). And that's simplifying things.... the reality is, over 162 games, only 4 teams per league get to go on. Over half the game (82) twice the number of teams in basketball get to move on. If the NBA was as tough as baseball, the Rockets would not only play their division opponents more often than they do others (which they don't... each conference plays basically the SAME exact schedule)... but they'd have to WIN their division to even make the playoffs. The NBA shouldn't really have divisions anyways... they're MEANINGLESS... you don't play teams in your division more often than not anymore... and now the top 4 seeds are no longer division winners anyways.
What are you talking about? If your point is being the wild card team in baseball is harder than just making the playoffs as a non division winner in the nba neither myself or anyone else will argue that. But is seems you are trying to say that being the wildcard in baseball is equal to or better than winning a division in basketball when both the nba and mlb have 30 teams and 6 divisions. The math does not add up buddy
I think Deke's jersey ought to be retired somewhere. He is one of the greatest defensive players this league has seen. And he has openly expressed his desire for it to be right here in Houston, next to Hakeem's (he said during last game's post interview that he was looking forward to it). I honestly see no reason why his request shouldn't be fulfilled. Two African greats who dominated the NBA, hanging side by side.
The #4 seed in the NBA certainly does not win their division. #4 seeds in the NBA do not hang banners to celebrate their "accomplishment."
Hell, I think we ought to retire Elvin Hayes jersey. I won't get into his accomplishments as a Rocket because I don't want to derail the thread (though it may be too late for that), but in short: While the majority of the Big E's accomplishments came with other teams, he was the first in a long, shining history of Rockets big men. He went to UH, and spent 8 years with the Rockets (his first and last four), and was named to the 50 Greatest to ever play the game. He was the first true "star" for the Rockets, getting drafted #1 overall their second year in existence in San Diego. I'm still surprised they waited as long as they did to retire Moses's number. What's my point? I really have no idea. I guess its my natural Houston-native inferiority complex kicking in. The Rockets have a Hall of Fame big man tradition rivaled only by the Lakers, and I'd like to see both them and the NBA make sure as many people as possible know it. As far as Deke goes, the man is a huge reason we're still where we are. That alone certainly isn't a reason to retire a jersey. The fact that #1 and #2 in blocks and are both African pivots for the Rockets is seriously cool; it'll take something more to warrant retiring his jersey. If we win out with him contributing as he has been, then I'd be for it. Then again, maybe we ought to put it up there just for knocking out Seattle. If the Rockets hadn't repeated, I don't think #22 would be hanging from the rafters. Sad, really.
I honestly would vote yes for that. I iwould have done it the second he was eligable, but like I said...a huge fan of Big Mo. agreed Thats why I said I give CLyde the flyer...he was instrumental in that run. He also gets a little more love factor for the joy of watching the PSJ with him and Dream....but if we woudlnt have won the second ring, that woudnt be enough to warrant hangin.
