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JVG has ruined Novak

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by yaoluv, Jan 7, 2007.

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  1. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Member

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    i love novak

    but HAHAHA that's stupid. aside from what everyone else said... TRADE him? If you'd really prefer cap space and a bag of chips for someone making 2nd round money, then go for it. I can't imagine you'd get anything of value for him unless he's part of a large deal involving more important players. (for now)
     
  2. smoothie

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    actually if you listened to JVG's latest radio interview, they asked him about his reputation of pulling guys out after missed shots.

    he set the record straight by saying that he DOES NOT take guys out because of missed shots (rafer alston) but does take them out for missed defensive rotations.

    he said that any shot taken that is an open or quality shot that comes within the offense is expected. he gest mad when people DON'T shoot. he said you can't make every shot. some times guys have off nights, but you CAN'T have an off night on defense.
     
  3. pchan

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    If Novak can be ruined by whatever happened so far this season, then he isn't that good to start with.
     
  4. dram1

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    How are you going to give a rookie substantial p/t when they offer nothing to earn it?

    I think JVG is bringing him in nicely. He obviously hasn't seen anything in practice to warrant giving him more p/t so why do it in a real game?

    I do aggree that it is difficult for a player to come in cold and hit big shots especially when they dont play every game.

    But this is the life of a rookie. You want to get off the bench? Show me in practice...and when I do put you in...make the best of it and I'll put you in more. That's it. It teaches a rookie that every shot counts and that you cant always rely on the flow of the game to get warmed up. You gotta step up and perform.

    He offers nothing else but a 3pt threat...that's it at this point. Until he becomes a more focused on the boards (which means technique and bulking up) and on defense (not getting beat, using your legs to defend, not reaching and committing stupid fouls like today in OT vs KG) he should snontinue to receive the p/t he has been.
     
  5. benum

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    Novak is not nba material yet. Time and time again he proves himself so. Stop blaming JVG.

     
  6. Doctor Robert

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    I want to see Novak play, but due to his lack of minutes this year, it makes no sense to me why he would be thrown in during a close game in crunch time and OT. Padgett seems like he would be a more reliable choice in that particular situation. That said, who know what role Novak might eventually fill in the NBA, but for the next few seasons, it will most likely be coming off the bench. He needs to learn to make the most of limited minutes, and hit shots when he plays his short stints. That is the life of a non-starter in the NBA. JVG is not misusing him in that sense.
     
  7. LCII

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    Wow, can someone just lock this thread up. I can't believe declarations like this are being made.
     
  8. tigermission1

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    Novak ruined the Rox' chances for six straight...
     
  9. RocketsMac

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    the original poster might have a good point, but I am really starting to doubt Novak's ability and I dont think JVG is behind this one.

    Novak was shooting great in preseason, we all thought he was gonna be our own Kyle Korver. I was delighted to see him play well and I really believed that he was a steal in the 2nd round.

    but in the regular season, he hasn't proved himself to get the minutes. I admit that I was one of the guys calling for giving Novak more minutes to show us what he can do. but guess what? if u are a good player, u dont need more than 1 minute of playing time to prove yourself. Novak has been given the chance, but he really blew it. it's apparent that he is not what we thought he is. he is a random scrub who cant take NBA Pressure and that's what matters the most. it's kinda like Ryan Bowen: he used to hit almost every shot in warmups, but he can shoot worth a crap during the game. it's all mental, and unfortunately, Novak doesn't seem to have that mental strength/ confidence.
     
  10. RocketsMac

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    think about it this way: forget about the preseason and all the things he did and just focus on the regular season. even though he got didn't get much PT, it's apparent that he sucked, shooting 26% (or whatever mediocre % the OP already mentioned).

    now when it comes to Vspan, I believe the guy didn't get a chance to show us what he can do. I am not saying the guy is good or he will be the next Tony Parker, I am just saying maybe we should give him about 5 minutes for the next couple of games to see what he can do. if he plays well, give him more PT, if he screws up, then take him straight to the dog house/ NBDL.
     
  11. krayziefl

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    This thread gets 1 stars. Novak shot bad well that can happen. By the way novak is a rookie and sometimes i have the feeling that he is the star on this squad when i read this board.
     
  12. LCII

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    Unfortunately we will never know Novak's potential with the spot minutes he's been getting - I think he would be a different story if he was playing for a crappy team like the Bobcats and got a lot of minutes personally.
     
  13. MartianMan

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    I was following you until you said giving Novak 35 minutes a game!
     
  14. noize

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    Wow, a lot of you guys a clueless to see what JVG was trying to do. I have no problem with him bringing in rookie to be the hero, but it just didn't pan out that way...tough it happens, and he will do it again if given the chance.

    This was the best opportunity for Novak to showcase for us on what he can do and he blew it. This was the best time to earn his minutes. You guys think he would boost his self confident in a meaningless blow out game? You think he would've feel proud b/c he made some clutchless shot in a blow out game? Please people, don't let a loss of fraustration get the best of you, especially when you are the same people who wanted his ass in there.

    This was a gamble that JVG was willing to make but it failed its that simple. I blame the loss on everyone including the coach not just on one or two individual, we just made some dumb mistake and out shots wasn't falling. Novak was the least of our concern b/c we had other chances and the situation wasn't sappose to come down to his. Sure Novak confident's was shot a little, but the only way to bring it back up is the put himself in the same situation again until he does comes through for us.
     
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    I'm sorry I couldn't read any further than that. No offence to you, but that was total BS! How many rookies can actually make a real impact on their teams in their first season? I mean even those No.1 picks, most of them couldn't do **** on the court and there nothing wrong with that 'cause they're just that, rookies! You remember how Yao Ming struggled in his first few games at Hourston? And that was when he was already an established player in the Chinese league and on the international stage. I also remember Dirk Nowitzky struggling in his rookie year but look at him now. Of course, I'm not saying Novak is going to be as good as those guys 'cause he's only a second round pick but he will gradually get used to the league and reach his full potential and, I firmly believe this, he will eventually contribute a lot to this rockets team.
     
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    I like novak as much as the next guy but putting him out there for major minutes when we are already a few guys short (IR) hurts this team too much. And the way juwan is playing right now, we dont need another guy in there. (i feel different about JLIII and VSPAn because there is no one playing good at pg anyway so why not give them a chance, but that is a different story) I dont like how JVG is only putting him in for minutes at a time because there is no way a rookie is gonna be able to come off the bench, hit a 3, and then go back and sit down. I think a month in the D-League before the playoffs could do him some good. Hopefully he will be able to contribute a bit more come playoff time.
     
  17. RocketsMac

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    like I said before, a great player/shooter can shoot well anytime he is called on. whether he plays 48 seconds or 48 minutes. Novak just cant handle NBA pressure, I know he is a rookie, but he doesn't seem to have much potential. at least not the potential we expected him to have. that's why he was a 2nd round pick.

    I've seen Damon Jones come off the bench in the last 10 seconds of the game and hit a game winning three. he only played 10 seconds. and it was the playoffs. he came off the bench, got a shot from the corner, and swished it. even though I hate this guy's guts, I call him a good shooter. we are not asking Novak to come in the last 10 secs and hit a game winning shot. we are asking him to play 4 minutes and hit a wideopen 3, and he failed to do that. as simple as that.

    my point is, u dont need 35 minutes a game to show what u can do, all u need is one or two positions. I am just glad that JVG gave him the opportunity and showed us why he is not playing him. and even though I criticized JVG for not playing him before, now I think JVG did the right thing. he just had to give him this opportunity to show us what he can do, and he proved that he is a scrub.
     
  18. Amel

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    he has not ruined him yet

    but, he could!

    I am thankful he is getting some time, but he still needs to be more on the court doing his thing and not playing a power forward

    dude, his freaking body is the same a 7 month old baby has!
     
  19. rayrocket

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    35' is impossible, 15' is reasonable.
     
  20. LCII

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    That's just what you think - great players come in all shapes and sizes. Some can prove themselves in 48 seconds, some need 48 games.
     

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