No answers, A_3PO? C'mon, you don't have to be a rocket (pun unintended) scientist to answer my questions. Anybody else wanna help A_3PO on this? I know there are plenty of smartass YOHs on this board.
I really dont quite get what u are saying here. would u elaborate please, and try to be a little comprehendible because u are being really confusing here. u shouldn't be ashamed or "feel shame" like u said for being a YOF. I didn't insult u or anything. I just tried to bring into account that this forum is for Rockets fans, not for Yao's, mcgrady's, battier's...etc. fans. we discuss things on this board that are relevant to our general interest, which is the Houston ROckets, it's not about individual players. now, since u said that u want Yao to get traded and u will root for the team that he's playing for, that's a direct confession that you are a YOF. this means u dont like the Rockets because they are the rockets, u like them because they have your favorite player. well, there's nothing wrong with that, but this is not the right board for u to express such ideas. I would suggest u go somewhere like this: http://www.**************.com/ well, u are right, I would suggest that u get banned, not because u are "not the same type person" I am, but because this not the right place for people that are not rockets fans. you are obviously not a Rockets fan, but a Yao fan. clutchfans.com is not a place for Yao fans. afterall, I am not the person who decides that u should get banned or not. it's the administrator who does that. btw, I have nothing against u personally, I am a big fan of Yao Ming just like u. the only difference between me and u is the fact that I would still be a rockets fan if Yao gets traded or retires or whatever, but u wont.
can u elaborate wnes? I really dont see how somebody could define "more than 38 mins" and "more than 0 min". I mean, u cant exactly "define it". I just found it interesting to know what u meant by that. it's not an argument or anything.
I did say "I hope Yao has a successful career as Rockets and I hope Rockets do well with Yao. I like Rockets because of Yao and I am getting dissappointed and frustrated with Rockets because the way Yao has been used. " right? It is funny so many people insist you have to be a "pure Rockest fan" to be here. I visit this site because I still care about Rockets. I thought this site was for the disccusion anything related Rockets, including Yao Ming. I did not come to this site with intention to do anything bad on Rockets. Even with limited posts I had the past few days about Yao demanding trade, my intention was to voice my opinion and hope it gets loud enough to put some presure on the owner to make a change. How many of you think the owner has done enough for this team to be realistic to run for a championship? In my opinion, all the mess we have now is because the owner is more concerned about profit than a championship. I wish he would learn a bit from Cuban. I have sensed something against Chinese fans (ok, YOFs) on this site since day one. I say it is good for Rockets to have so many Chinese fans. But with the hostile atmosphere and the way Yao is used, It can easily produce a lot of Rockets haters in the end. And that is the last thing I want to see. How can a fan forum centered so many nazis is beyond me.
From what I see the difference between you and me is: you claimed you are a life time Rockets fan while I am at this moment a Rockets fan. I was not a Rockets fan before Yao came to Rockets and I am not sure if I will be a one after he leave Rockets(There is a chance I will still be, depends on how I feel about the Rockets). I never said I am YOF, I said "you think I am YOF". I do not think you have to swear to dedicate your life to be Rockets fan to be on this site. And I do not think it is right to find something you do not like and then label him something like "criminal" or "evil" then feel the need to do some strong "for god's sake". This is just an open forum, isn't it?
that's exactly the point. if u dont like the organization/owner/the city, nobody is forcing u to be a Rockets fan. FYI, Les Alexander won 2 championships in his first 2 years as an owner. and what kind of change do u want the owner to make? he drafted Yao Ming, traded for a superstar (McGrady), surrounded them with talented quality players in Battier, Bonzi, Hayes, Snyder, Vspan, Novak... the coach bought 50 season tickets and gave them for free to get fans to cheer for the rockets. what else do u want him to do? play Yao less minutes so his leg wont hurt him?
Obviously, one benefit of limiting yao's playing time is that it might be possible to extend yao's prime years by 1 or 2. I know some of you won't agree with me. That's fine. The only reason I wanna tell is because yao is an asian, he will never have the same physical condition as AI's. If you were an asian, you would know it's definitely undoubtful...
I can see our conversation is not working. You are entitled your opinion but do not expect other think the same way you do.
it seems like it's pointless to continue with this conversation, u dont seem to understand what I said, I said that I dont have a problem with u at all. all I said is this is not the right place for people who only care about Yao. I didn't claim that I am a life-time Rockets fan, I didn't say u should take "rockets as religion" or whatever that crap was. I dont "think" that you are a Yao Only Fan, *you are a Yao Only Fan*. all I said is, since u are a Yao only fan, go to google.com and search for "Yao Ming Fan club", that's the right place for you. because this website is for discussing the Houston Rockets, not Yao Ming. posters here are concerned about the team itself, not only Yao Ming. I think I've had just about enough of this. talk to you later
what is a YOH? why have some of you accepted these terms as a part of our vernacular? what the hell is wrong with some of you people?
You can post whatever you want; that's up to Clutch. But if you want to advocate things that will hurt the Rockets simply because it's best for Yao, it makes little sense to do it here. No Rockets fan will agree with it (for the obvious reasons). Therefore, you must only be addressing fans like yourself -- those who care foremost about Yao's interests and not what's best for the team. And if that's the case, why even bother posting here? You'll be much more at home at a Yao board. It's like if I was a huge Kobe fan and indirectly a Lakers "fan". Then I went to a Laker's board and posted that they should trade Kobe because they aren't the right team for him. That would be pretty stupid and pointless to make such a post on their board. What are they going to say? "Yeah, you might be right. Even though it will hurt our team, Kobe deserves to be in a better situation."
Why! First of all, Yao is on his prime and becoming the ultimate player that everyone is dreaming off happening on his stage of life. So why limit the potential, I would let him explore his game to the next level. Can you dig! Yao can still be M-V-P.Don't bash any one from the team, cause i know Yao will come back strong!!Are you a die hard fan or just a nervous fan that can't take pressure off his chest. alright, play ball!! GO ROCKETS!
Saying a team should trade it's star player on it's own fans site is uncalled for. I'd agree these posters should be banned. That said. IIRC there have been a lot of posters who said we should limit Tmac's minutes. Do you think they should be called TOFs too? I think I have also said in one of my posts before that JVG should minimize Tmac's playing time in the regular season. Now if you dare to call me a TOF, I'd debate you till the sky turns green.
Misuse of Yao Ming will not be tolerated, either here in the USA or overseas. Yao Ming is a 36 min/game player and the Houston Coach needs to respect the players under his care. Les Alexander should insist that proper care be taken by the coach and that Yao Ming needs enough recovery time to play at his best for his team. By now JVG should have learned this and not be asking for more from players that already give 100%. This accident to Yao should make the coach more aware of problems that need to be considered and adjusted for.
Maybe the OP is re-post, but I don't think it's stupid. Please be constructive, OP just suggests how to make right use of Yao's ability and avoid injury which really hurts. It's nothing to do with he is YOF or not. Fans from China, like me, are not only fans of Yao, but also fans of the great Houston Rockets. Please don't assume that we care only Yao. Yes, Yao gets paid heavy bucks to do his job, he should do whatever the coach requires him to do, but I just feel we can expect more from a healthy Yao. My one cent.
There have been a lot of posts calling for reducing Tmac's minutes in the regular season before. What have you said about those posts? Why are you so angry about this particular one? I am curious.
what's all the bashing on YOF? basketball is a team sport, if you are a yao ming fan, imo, you are automatically a rocket fan. so all the concern over yao is not to say some people don't care about rockets. i have no idea what's so hard to realize that, if you play more minutes than your body can handle, you would be at risk of injure. first of all, you won't be as effective, secondly, you will be worn out, and lastly, when you are tired, body doesn't move the way you want (risk for injuries). for those who don't think that's the case, you try go to the gym play basketball everyday for 5 hours for a couple of month and tell me you are injure free.
YOF who come here and bash the rockets, should get the hell out of here. you come to the "HOUSTON ROCKETS FANS SITE", dont expect anything different. trust me, if we played yao too little, we'll have YOF fans here questioning JVG commitment to yao. they'll be saying, why is yao is underrated.
