Is it true that past coaching tenure of JVG has shown that he is like Larry brown in that if you are a rookie there is no way you are not gonna get good minutes in your rookie year unless you are are TOP class rookie who is ready to perform right away. You wont get a fair chance to learn how to play in the NBA during the games. Maybe in your sophomor year but rookie year, learning is more or less limited to team practices in your rookie year. Was JVG like that even in NY ?
OOPS what I meant to say was if you are a rookie there is no way you are gonna get good minutes......
yup, rookies never get good minutes...luther head, chuck hayes. What other rookies have the rockets had that were actually good enough to deserve PT? exactly. the players that produce play. if the rockets god B-roy, he would be playing a lot.
Doubtful as his defence was not upto JVG's standards! He would languish like Novak. Hayes & Head would have been the same last season if it hadn't been for the injuries and JVG's hand was forced to play them.
Let me see. You're comparing an assistant coach, to a Hall of Fame Championship coach. No, I don't see the connection.
I heard Phil Jackson say he doesn't like to play rookies either in a telecast recently, but Farmar's play has forced him to. The truth is, no coach who's interested in winning likes to play rookies. But if they are your best chance to win, you do it. That was the case last year with Luther Head. And there have been situations this year as well where playing guys like Spanoulis, Novak, or Lucas (who's a rookie, essentially) was warranted.
Phil Jackon has had that rep for a while. The Lakers fan boards were upset when he was one of the first coaches to start sending rookies to the development league. They were wondering if he would even play Farmar this year. http://www.latimes.com/sports/baske...ov28,1,5396146.story?coll=la-headlines-sports Jackson tackles subject of playing the rookies By Mike Bresnahan, Times Staff Writer November 28, 2006 During his days of collecting championships in Chicago, Phil Jackson once said, "You win with men." More to the point, when asked about rookies in 1993, he said, "We tell 'em they're lower than whale [droppings] for a while. When they prove to us they can play, then they have a step." But Jackson's stance toward first-year players has apparently softened over time, so much so that he criticized past reports that painted him as a coach who turned a cold shoulder to all rookies. "It's just all lies," Jackson said Monday. "It's not [even] overblown. It's just total lies. When you have teams that have finished first as many times as we had in Chicago and finished first in L.A. here since the very initial year, you end up with draft picks that are basically one pick above the second round. "I always look at that as limited information that people have. [There are] guys that I've had that I've felt really happy about since I've been a Laker, with kind of a father's pride." Of course, that led to a Jordan Farmar discussion. The rookie from UCLA made his latest audition Sunday in front of Jackson and 18,997 fans at Staples Center. After missing two games because of a sprained ankle, he had 11 points in 16 minutes against New Jersey. For the season, Farmar, the 26th pick in this year's draft, is averaging 5.5 points and 2.2 assists in 16.1 minutes. "Coaches are pragmatists, for the most part," Jackson said. "If a kid's going to go out there in that unit and survives and plays well, they're going to stick with him. They like to win." Farmar, who turns 20 on Thursday, had heard about Jackson's tendency to not play rookies but shrugged it off. "I can't worry about that," he said. "All I can do is my job every day." Farmar also said Jackson appeared to have at least some confidence in him. "I think he does," Farmar said. "He puts me in at some key moments and lets me have the opportunity to show I can play and contribute at this level."
And I think Van Gundy would say the same thing. And note that Jackson said it's depend on the high number of low draft picks he's had. Well, it's not like Van Gundy is refusing to play lottery picks. We're talking about second rounders (Novak, Spanoulis) here. Is there any evidence that Jackson actually looks to play rookies more often compared to Van Gundy? I just don't think it's uncommon for a coach in JVG's position, who's expected to win right now, to be reluctant to play rookies extended minutes. It's a fact, rookies usually aren't very good. Even if they're putting up nice numbers, they often are making a lot of mistakes that don't show up on the stat sheet. All that said, I've been so frustrated with Alston's play since McGrady has been out that I think it would be refreshing for Spanoulis to be added to the rotation. We aren't going to win consistently with Alston dominating the ball on offense. The same thing happened at the end of last year, when we sucked, and it's happening again this year.
Stop making excuses for him. Win now with Rafer starting and playing 45 mpg doesn't even mix. Phil is playing Farmar and Assistant coach Gundy isn't playing any of the MLE players he signed. One of the main reasons Phil always owns him and you see why. He has a way with players assistant coach wont even think about trying.
I doubt he'd let Yao play that many minutes when Yao was scoring 0 points. Rudy T was really good for Yao's development. But that might be part of the reason Rox lost a couple more games and eventually missed playoff by one game, and Rudy lost his job. Life is unfair.
Mcgrady might as well be an assistant coach if anyone! Rookies get their time when they EARN (a word not in lot of peoples vocabulary) playing time.....alot of 1st round picks aren't worth playing lets face it........ Larry Brown great with Xs and Os not with players however IMO.
The Knicks always drafted well with JVG, but the players they drafted clearly weren't ready for the experienced JVG teams. The Knicks already had enough depth. JVG didn't want to waste his times with rookies. Now he needs to play them because we have depth issues, and that's why we have lots of guys under the age of 25 in our rotation (or at 1 point were in our rotation).
Not so good for Boki's though. Rudy T got sick. Then under Mr. Mean the Rockets had a season ending collapse. Players weren't happy. Smith had an issue with Yao, he preferred Cato.
