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The New Brawl - NY v. Denver

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by geeimsobored, Dec 16, 2006.

  1. brantonli24

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    At least this means plenty of time for Stephon Marbury :D and stevie franchise. I'm wondering who on earth will be backing up Eddy Curry and who's the Knicks PF. Channing Frye and Daivd Lee were both on the court when the brawl happened, and they'll both probably get suspended for a couple of games. The Knick's mess just got messier.

    Damn, why didn't I pick Anthony in the Pick one Challenge? sigh. I wonder how this will affect the Nuggets...........
     
  2. Yaozer

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    Next brawl I wanna see some round house kicks and uppercuts. I'm tired of this tackles and one-punch-then-disappear moves. If only Jet Li or that guy from Ong Bak were in the NBA...
     
  3. Mordo

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    Knicks should just give up on the season and join the Greg Oden sweepstakes. He will be better than Curry on hype alone.
     
  4. ShadyMcGrady

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    I wouldn't say THAT.

    Eddy Curry, along with his genius teamate Quentin Richardson, has been hyping himself up a little themselves.

    Haven't you heard the news in fact?

    Apparently Yao Ming is going to have a tough time guarding Eddy Curry and Q-Rich said no one can really stop Eddy.

    True enough but...







    ...from getting to the buffet.
     
  5. warbirdzone

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    There won't be any Greg Oden sweepstakes for the Knicks this season.
    The Bulls own the right to switch their first round pick with the Knicks
    from the Curry trade.
     
  6. geeimsobored

    geeimsobored Member

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    Nope because giving up means Chicago wins the Greg Oden sweepstakes. The Eddy Curry trade has a clause that allow Chicago to swap picks with New York this year, and based on the records I'm pretty sure they'll do that.

    Keep going New York, you'll turn Chicago into a powerhouse.
     
  7. Mordo

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    The MSG fight was really lame. Here is a real fight from European Basketball. They are throwing chairs, fists, and flares. :eek:

    Red Star Belgrade-PAOK Finals


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  8. RocketsMac

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    holy crap. isn't this the second season in a row the knicks do this? didn't the Bulls get #1 or 2 pick last year from the knicks?

    damn, the Bulls totally made Isiah their B!t%# :D
     
  9. RocketsMac

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    speaking of thugs and Gs, and chickens in the case of Carmelo :D , our own Tracy Mcgrady is a G, here are a couple of videos:

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    and here's another one with Bobby Jackson, Tmac really kicked his a$$:
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  10. Mordo

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    That's the funniest quote. LOL. At this rate, Chicago will have one of the best frontcourts in the league. Tyrus Thomas, Greg Oden, and Ben Wallace!
     
  11. RocketsMac

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    here's a mix tape of all the fights:

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    priceless! :D :D
     
  12. JaWindex

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    Whats up with Shawn Bradley at the :40 mark? It looks like hes falling out of the sky or something.
     
  13. KePoW

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    lol, carmelo sure knows how to 'punch'!



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  14. geeimsobored

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    after looking at that, it looks more like a clean b**** slap. Mello... you are such a wuss.
     
  15. JamesC

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    I love this game.....seriously though Mardy Collins was just trying to keep the team from being further embarrassed with another dunk from Smith. Not condoning it but it makes for some good tv. I love the NBA.
     
  16. J DIDDY

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    that fight was lame, but rather amusing. what is even more lame are the espn guys acting like some just died or its some kind of national tragedy. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Outlier

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    Chicago has their pick buddy.
     
  18. francis 4 prez

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    you know, after seeing that mixtape, with the perspective of time and distance from the event, i think the pacers/pistons thing was even worse than i thought it was. that was just an amazing event. i remember seeing it in the workout room at our apt complex and going home and telling my roommate (who doesn't really watch basketball) to go to ESPNEWS to see what happened and even he was mesmerized. i loved in the clip when they paused for the "unlucky break" caption right before jermaine clocks the guy.



    first off, how is he going to keep it quiet? everyone knows about it.

    second, this fight was about 8 orders of magnitude short of the pacers/pistons brawl. artest went into the stands to attack a fan. jackson did the same. and jermaine nailed a fan on the floor. that's how you get season long, 30 games, and 25 games.

    this was just a level above the normal "two guys get pissed off at each other and each takes a swing before it gets broken up" fight. and those usually just get you 2 or 3 games. i know stern likes to send messages, but there's pretty much no justification for even approaching those other suspensions. if anyone even gets over 10 games i think it would be crazy.

    drop a 5 or 6 on melo, give nate 8 or 10 for being crazy, and give jr maybe 4 or 5 since he wasn't really going to do anything until everything else happened. plus he wasn't asking to get clobbered to the ground to start the whole thing.

    anything over 10 and stern is worrying too much about image without trying to be remotely fair (and it's not like people aren't going to remember the fight b/c he hands down big suspensions and it's not like anyone is going to not fight every again because you add 3 or 4 games extra to the suspension). you can make a statement in the pistons thing b/c a season long suspension gets everyone's attention and is warranted. in this case, this is just emotions getting out of control and you'll never legislate that out of any sport.
     
  19. geeimsobored

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    A nice bashing of New York... Denver screwed up but Isiah and the Knicks' handling of these is just asinine.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...vLYF?slug=dw-knicks121606&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    Bad apples
    By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
    December 16, 2006

    Beyond the sucker punches and sorry stunts at Madison Square Garden on Saturday came the most pathetic part of all for the NBA – Isiah Thomas whining about run-up scores and poor sportsmanship, like the once proud New York Knicks are nothing but a lowly college mid-major in need of mercy.

    Just when you thought Zeke couldn't embarrass this franchise any worse, just when you thought he couldn't let down this city any more, just when you thought building and coaching a dog team wasn't enough, there is this: a whiny coach making excuses for dirty fouls and poser players.

    Oh, there were all sorts of people at fault when the Knicks and Denver Nuggets decided Saturday night was all right for fighting, and David Stern will certainly hammer them the way he did Detroit and Indiana for their brawl in Auburn Hills. Carmelo Anthony is going to sit his 31.5-point scoring average for a long time.

    Isiah Thomas isn't the only one in the wrong here. But his postgame press conference performance was the most disappointing, if telling, of them all. He blamed Denver's perceived running up of the score, complete with a highlight reel dunk, as simply too much for his humble guys to handle.

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    "Up 19 with a minute and a half to go, (Carmelo Anthony) and (Marcus) Camby really shouldn't be in the game," Thomas said. "We had surrendered. (Those) guys shouldn't even be in the game at that point."

    Thomas is correct about this much. The Nuggets were brutalizing the Knicks on their home court, 119-100 with 1:15 remaining, making a mockery of Thomas' salary rich club. And yes, stars Anthony and Camby were still in the game, maybe even because Denver coach George Karl wanted to hit up Thomas for firing Larry Brown, Karl's old University of North Carolina buddy.

    Whether or not Thomas told Mardy Collins to exact some revenge by tackling a breaking J.R. Smith around the neck is something Stern will decide. But Thomas may not have had to say anything. The boorish play might simply be Collins responding to his coach's unspoken outrage at the injustice of once again having his team get its ass kicked.

    It's certainly telling that Collins did nearly the same thing – a late flagrant foul – in Indiana's beat down of the Knicks on Friday. So that's back-to-back flagrant fouls in back-to-back blowout losses for New York.

    But those are Isiah's Knicks. This is on him. If he had an ounce of self-respect, he'd realize there is only one person to blame for this disaster and it isn't George Karl for his substitution pattern.

    Instead, he went with some sad, victim routine.

    "They were having their way with us," Thomas said. "I think J.R. Smith had just made one dunk when he reversed and spun in the air. And I think Mardy didn't want our home crowd to see that again. So he fouled him."

    Said Nate Robinson: "It's like a slap in the face, saying we're going to embarrass you like that."

    Boy, thank goodness the NBA has a coach and a player willing to stand up for sportsmanship like these two.

    We know a respectful sort such as Robinson would never, ever show up an opponent by, say, bounce-passing a ball off the backboard to himself so he could dunk it. And we know if, say, such a thing happened on his watch, say Nov. 29 in Cleveland, Thomas would never, ever leave Robinson in the game like it was completely acceptable.

    Of course not. Not these virtuous souls.

    "If we're up 20 points, we're not going to play Stephon (Marbury) and Eddy (Curry)," Robinson said.

    Of course not, because if the Knicks were up 20, Robinson would just honor his fallen opponent. Like when he botched that ESPY-campaign self-alley-oop and claimed humbly, "I won't be trying it again unless we're up by 20."

    The good news is the Knicks aren't getting up 20 on anyone anytime soon.

    If Robinson really wants this to end, if he wants the MSG boos silenced, then he should get his teammates to compete hard the first 46 minutes, not just foul hard in the final two.

    If Thomas wants to stop people from running up the score on him, then he should have built a better club. He shouldn't have wasted all that money on illogical signings, outrageous trades and heartless characters.

    No, Thomas and his guys weren't the only ones in the wrong Saturday. The Nuggets have their own issues. But when it was over, at least they weren't crying, at least they weren't punking.

    It's all gone in New York now – the pride, the respect, the dignity. This isn't just a bad team; this is a bad act. A once proud franchise and fan base brought to its knees as its pathetic coach makes excuses and whines for mercy.
     
  20. MartianMan

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    Robinson is a head case. 20 games minimum.
     

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