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[CHRON] Speaking of N-word, stop using it now (quotes from Rockets)

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  1. macfan

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    Seeing the forum is a little slow today, maybe this will spark some discussion.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/4384933.html

    John P. Lopez



    Dec. 7, 2006, 12:26AM
    Speaking of N-word, stop using it now


    By JOHN P. LOPEZ
    Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle


    It can be a term of endearment and affection.

    It can be the ultimate sign of oneness, a devotion of sorts to the brotherly love shared by those who also share a locker room, a goal and the unity of a team.

    Yet outside the sacred walls of a gym or dressing room, it can be the most despicable thing a person can say to a person of African-American descent.

    The N-word has somehow woven itself into the sports culture, particularly basketball, as much as wristbands and crossover dribbles.

    And from casual references among friends of the same culture, entertainers have taken the word and tossed it into rap lyrics. Comedians use it, sometimes to their own demise, as in the case of Michael Richards.

    In certain settings, the word is used interracially, with white players calling blacks by the name and vice versa. Players compliment opponents with it. It can be neither age-specific nor an idiom specific to one culture.

    Click on the myspace.com or facebook.com page of a young athlete — any athlete of any color. Chances are in their profile, no matter their race, they use the word, in a complimentary tone, to describe themselves or a friend.

    This is where sports is failing a generation.

    "Growing up, I thought it was bad, but at the same time it became a part of our language, a part of our culture," Rockets guard Rafer Alston said. "Over the years, we've gotten away from understanding and knowing the word and what it really means."

    You won't find a more sincere or thoughtful NBA player than Alston. Yet he admits, regrettably, that when he is back on the New York blacktops in the offseason, putting on his "Skip To My Lou" persona and playing the street game, he still falls into the habit of using the term.

    "From my generation on down, it's used in some contexts more than any other word there is," Alston said. "It's almost in every sentence. I tell people, 'Don't use it,' but it's hard to get through, especially depending on where you're from and where you come up. If you're brought up in the inner city, then you're going to hear it so much, some probably can't help but use it."

    Inner-city kids aren't alone. Some young athletes from suburbs and country towns have grown so accustomed to the word that it has become a part of every level of the sporting culture.

    Sports has perpetuated acceptance of the word so much that there clearly has been a desensitizing of its history and true meaning. It is hateful and demeaning, but somewhere, somehow, it became acceptable if used among friends.

    If that's where the desensitizing began, then that's where change and propriety must return.

    The biggest issue NBA commissioner David Stern thinks he faces today is getting a grip on the slippery ball his league now uses. What about the sticky situation that goes on every day in numerous NBA, college, high school and youth locker rooms?

    When it comes to image, Stern has issued edicts to clubs about which headband is acceptable and how players can wear their socks and shorts. How about what they say, even among one another?

    America's youths emulate everything their heroes do. They buy their shoes, mimic their moves, wear their jerseys. Of course they know the basketball culture — what is acceptable and what is said.

    "I think now it is (used) more by players because of the hip-hop culture," said longtime Rockets trainer Keith Jones. "I have a buddy in New York — a big, white Russian guy, a basketball guy. He uses it. I say, 'Hey, kid. Don't do it.'

    "It's become culture, but it's sad. You're putting yourself in a position back to where you had nothing. You had no rights. You were an animal, completely downgraded. By using it, you're downgrading yourself."

    Setting an example must begin with the heroes — the NBA, NFL and major league baseball stars. But understanding that even in an affectionate way the word has no place in sports trickles down to college, high school and summer league coaches.

    Too often, coaches allow the word to be used inside the locker room, believing it's just kids being kids. Too often, summer league coaches drive the bus or van, listening to exchanges and accepting the word because its usage is not intended in a demeaning way.

    "To be honest, when I was a teenager, being called a (expletive) or having the N-word associated with you was part of it," Rice coach Willis Wilson said. "It was a label of affection. But there comes a point when you should learn that it is offensive in any context.

    "There are things that some within the culture are afraid to talk about. I think there's an education process that society has abandoned. If there's something with which some are not familiar, people can be afraid to address it with young people."

    Wilson says he does not allow the word to be used in any context in his program. Nor does he allow loud music or players to sag their pants.

    "If it's disrespectful outside (the locker room)," Wilson said, "it's disrespectful inside."

    Calling for "dignity over degradation," Jesse Jackson recently implored the entertainment industry to cease in using the N-word. As NBA commissioner, Stern should follow suit in his domain, perhaps with a public-service campaign or a memo to players that truly would change the way kids look at their stars.

    And it cannot end there. Every coach and every player on every level who thinks it is OK to use the word because it's just basketball culture must break down the walls. Treat the word the same inside and outside the locker room.

    "I don't care if it's between black people, if it's a term degrading women, degrading Hispanics, that stuff just brings people down," Rockets forward Shane Battier said. "I don't care about the context. No one calls me that. I would never call that to somebody else.

    "There is a way you could handle it. If someone said that to me, I would look at them and say, 'Come on, man.' "

    Said Alston, who grew up tossing the word around like no-look passes: "Lately, I don't use that word. I understand."

    Every player should. Every parent and coach, too.

    john.lopez@chron.com
     
  2. Amel

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    does not affect me, does not belong here

    who ever feels comfortable calling or using the N word its their choice

    I do not give a f, it does not mean anything to me

    my 2 cents
     
  3. Ottomaton

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    I understand the legitimate issues of both sides in this debate. It is definately a debate that is worth having in the right place and at the right time, but really I don't think that this is something I want to hear about from sportswriters. If they wanted to write op-ed pieces they should have taken their careers in another direction.
     
  4. geeimsobored

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    this is clearly JVGs fault.
     
  6. docgundy

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    so is there really a difference b/w the r ending and a ending?
     
  7. JuLiO-R-

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    One sounds cool, the other sounds mean.
     
  8. SLrocket

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    GAY! lol.
     
  9. wreck

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    When I grow up I want to be like shane battier.
     
  10. krosfyah

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    Yes, they are essentially two different words. Maybe two words with a common origin but at this point in time, they are two different words.

    One certain thing about the human condition is that language is in a CONSTANT state of evolution. How many words have been added to Websters the last 10 years? It's probably hundreds. 200 years from now, NgggA and NgggR may not even be recognizable words to us ...not that it would matter to us. ;)

    Here's the rule about NgggA: If you are not 100% certain about how and when to use it ...don't.

    btw, I agree it's stupid that a sportwriter is doing an op-ed on this.
     
  11. AstroRocket

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    Speaking of which, does he have a lisp or something? I thought he sounded kinda weird in the Christmas video.
     
  12. wnes

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    Umm I think sportswriters are entitled to publishing occasional opinion pieces in sports section that are based on their moral principles. The problem (or lack thereof) with righteous indignation over the frequent colloquial usage of N-word is that it's taken out of context. Brothas don't mean no disrespect when they play balls and call each other n*****s. I gotta agree with Charles Barkley athletes are not role models.

    Neither are young actresses, apparently. You'd think Lindsay Lohan should have known better when she issued her Fully Adequite Blackberry Manifesto to the public?
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/gofugyourself/GFY112005/lohan_page1.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/gofugyourself/GFY112005/lohan_page2.jpg

    Well, at least athletes don't claim to state "oppinions on how our society should be educated on for the better of our country. Our people."

    :)

    BTW ottoman, I'd turn off my sig like yours if I were posting in GARM.

    People are just mean.
     
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    When Collin Pines said the N word to Yao in chinese, he almost got his ass kicked by the Cat.
     
  14. pgabriel

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    lopez trying to spark some discussion for his radio show.

    black people have been calling each other "*****" long before athletics and rap. so his argument is silly anyway, athletes and rappers aren't perputating this.
     
  15. Rashmon

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    From Richard Pryor...
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    'nuff said...

    Language is NSFW and young kids.
     
  16. Highwire

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    Ahh, so that's what this thread is all about...
     
  17. ElPigto

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    Really? When did this happen? What exactly did Cat do?
     
  18. rimbaud

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    John Lopez is already a mediocre sports writer. Why, then, does he want to become an even worse social commentator? I won't take to heart anything he says about society until his position is supported by Carrot Top.
     
  19. Sishir Chang

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    That was one of the more ridiculous episodes of Yao's first year. What Collin Pine and Yao were saying to each other roughly sounds like "ne gah" which in Mandarin means "this" or "that."

    Mobley just made a foolish assumption regarding what they were saying.
     
  20. Rule0001

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    Shut up Alston, you know you don't tell others to not use it. That would be what litle girls do

    T-Mac: Hey, N******! Whats up?
    Alston: Don't use that word *whimpers, it might offend some people
    JVG: HEY N***********!!!!!!! LOLOLOLO LOLZ
     

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