What do you guys think of this Mexican fan's comment ?

Shouldn't the topic be "what do you think of this fan's comment" instead of "the MEXICAN fan's comment"

 

I think a little bit has to do with some people (myself included) look at some big men and think, damn, if I were 7' tall, I could be an NBA player too. You wonder if their skills are really NBA quality alone, or if their size matters more to their success than their skills. The rooting for the underdog in people often tends to favor the shorter players. So, some people like to see the giants (7'5 centers for instance) fail.

I don't mean to overstate the David and Goliath angle too much; it's not the only reason, but I think it is worth mentioning. We, as Rockets fans, tend to view Yao as the underdog. That idea is kinda hard to sell to some people, since he is 7'5 and a #1 draft pick.

 

Yao is my son's Favorite Player

Rocket River

 

this thread makes me want to vomit

 

personally i think its important, because in the context of his example being, football/soccer it is important. IE mexicans take soccer seriously as opposed to Americans

 

In my experience, little kids of all backgounds in all cities tend to just LOVE Yao Ming.

I was sitting in the Madison Square Garden next to a couple of families with young children. They appear to be Knicks fans (the orange and blue Knicks shirts and jerseys and not Chinese. The kids cheered for the Knicks but they went WILD whenever Yao does anything.


I think the fact that little kids love Yao Ming hurts his street cred and commentators/opposing players/fans who want to sound "tough" at all costs tend to put him down to sound more street cred worthy.

 

That is the dumbest **** I have ever heard...

 

I THINK THE GUYS ARGUMENT IS ON POINT, WE DON'T LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE RACISM THAT ALL OF US HAVE WITHIN US AS AMERICANS. BUT IT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY REASON HE DOESN'T GET THE DAP HE DESERVES. HE ALSO SUFFERS FROM THE TIM DUNCAN SYNDROME, WHICH ALTHOUGH HIS GAME IS SOLID AND EFFECTIVE HE SIMPLY DOES HAVE AN EXCITING GAME TO WATCH SO HE WILL NOT BE AS RECOGNIZED AS LEBRON OR D-WADE. THE OTHER ASPECT IS THE SHAQ AND WILT THING: "WELL HE'S 7'6 SO HE SHOULD BE COMPLETELY DOMINATING" SO EVEN WHEN HE'S EXCEEDING HIS POTENTIAL PEOPLE WILL STILL TRY TO DIMINISH HIS ACHIEVEMENTS

DO WE AS FANS GRAVITATE TOWARDS PLAYERS THAT WE FEEL WE HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH? YES ABSOLUTLY. BUT IF YAO CONTINUES AT THIS PACE HE'LL GET HIS DUE. JUST LIKE DIRK IS FINALLY GETTING SOME RESPECT.

 

Dirk will never get any respect from me


ok, some...

 

Not really, he's correct in his accessment of black athletes, he just forgot to add that pretty much everyone feels this way. Blacks can just show it more because well, they're black and they can do whatever they want and no one will play the race card on them (witness Michael Irvin vs. Rush Limbaugh treatment on ESPN).

 

Complete and total tripe, I could barely stomach reading it (pun intended). The original blog comments that were made are flawed on so many levels and you ignorantly chimed right in. So Black Pride is to blame for everything from Yao not readily being accepted to him not winning the ROY. I submit this as an alternate line of reasoning: How about Yao wasn't readily accepted because he was an unknown, as most foreign players are before they hit the NBA floor.

Every great athlete takes pride in his abilities and skill level, the NBA is like every other professional sports organization, in that its members take pride in who they are and what they do, it had nothing to do with black players, PLAYERS in general took a wait and see approach to Yao and still do because he has not truly accomplished anything by NBA standards. To say that black players don’t want Yao to succeed is complete lunacy. If you can play you can play. Look at all of the foreign players that were doubted initially but now are accepted as some of the premiere players in the league. Heck even a one trick pony like Peja is respected by his peers. I have every confidence most players view Yao as one of the best players in the league and think he will one day be among the greatest centers to play the game.

I would find your other comments laughable as well if not for the severity of the terms you used. To call Jesse Jackson an opportunist or an extortionist again belies your ignorance, not only of who Mr. Jackson is but in the issues that he attempts to tackle. Also, though I may not agree with Al Sharpton on all views and at times feel he Is a bit abrasive, I still merit him for some of the issues he has attempted to take on. By the tenor of some your comments, your generalizations about African Americans, as well your inference that the legislations and social programs that favor minorities are “bribes”, I submit sir that you have some racial issues of your own to work through and stop short of calling you an outright racist.

 

He's right on the money. That's why many black players don't like all the European players or Asian players coming over, it's
"their game" and they don't want to see that change..or else, what would A.I. or Stephen Jackson do for a living? Shoot people at clubs?

You ever watch a football game, and when a black player gets a TD or something, everyone is celebrating with him while a white player gets a TD, you hardly ever see his black teammates around them.

 

posts like this used to upset me, now the ignorance is just funny. why don't you just be a man anc call all black players thugs. and yor football analogy couldn't be further from the truth from what I've witnessed lately.

 

Did I miss a press conference or something in which it was stated that African American players don't like the influx of foreign players? Pardon me if I am incorrect, but whenever I watch NBA TV or ESPN and they are doing a segment on players giving clinics overseas I think… I could have sworn… I saw African American players giving those clinics as well. As a matter of fact the 76ers, you know the team that A.I. plays for spent the pre-season abroad, playing exhibition games and giving clinics. These clinics are meant to help drum up and keep foreign interest in the sport. More foreign players naturally means more foreign viewers. You see players like A.I. and Steven Jackson understand that this will benefit them, because the more people who like the sport, and buy their jerseys, naturally means more money for them. It’s funny that a “club shooting gansta” like A.I. is smart enough to understand that but you apparently are not…hmm?

 

This thread is really going no where fast now. Who takes CB and KS seriously on this site anyways. Its not racist. I have seen them talk smack about T-MAC also. Their issue is with the Rockets franchise period. They hate to see it succeed. They never have any statistical point to back up anything they say. " Yao and T-MAC do not maker their team better" What was it? Last season When MAC and Yao together WITH their team 20 and 10? And what was it without??? We should channel all this anger into a Charles and Kenny bashing thread.

 

This is a very good point. Hasn't Yao ever seen White Men Can't Jump???

Excluding past and present teammates, does Yao really fraternize with any other players in the NBA? Does he really have an opportunity to build a rapport with former players/analysts like CB or KS when he is hounded by Chinese media? Is a magazine like SLAM going to choose to write about a non-spectacular, fundamentally sound Chinese national or some high school kid with a 50-inch veritcal? More times than not a person like Yao, who was not born in the US, is probably going to feel more comfortable hanging out with what is familiar, i.e. family, friends, teammates, etc. That means less time with other league "analysts" whose opinions he can influence.

As far as CB and KS go, I really listen to them for their comedy stylings rather than their "in-depth" analysis. Thats what the former coaches are for, i.e. Doug Collins, Hubie Brown, (when not coacing, Mike Fratello and JVG). I trust their opinions more because they have to have a better overall understanding as to what goes into winning. I truly believe CB and KS do not watch enough Rockets games to form a valid opinion. We saw an example with Greg Anthony and Tim Legler citing old stats for Yao during the Miami game.

Bottom line is, no one can deny that there are a LOT of Yao/Rockets haters out there. If racism is the reason I cannot say.

 

i love u

 

Completely agree with what this educated fan is saying. Yao has gone thru so much and accomplished so much more and is continuing to improve. agree 100 percent.

 

THANK YOU!!! intelligent post. i couldnt have said it better myself.