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[KTRK] Man Plans to Race Pigs in Protest of Mosque

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Jeff, Nov 30, 2006.

  1. CometsWin

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    The man wants to race pigs because pigs are offensive animals to Muslims. He's using intimidation to try to force these people off their rightful property. That's how the curtailment of rights has occurred throughout American history in case you didn't know.
     
  2. Burzmali

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    Nope.

    He's not doing anything to them.

    He's doing something on his own property. It's not really comparable to the KKK.
     
  3. CometsWin

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    Much like a white man burning a cross on his own yard because he dislikes his black neighbors isn't doing anything to them? It's a bit comparable to the KKK.
     
  4. thatboyz

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    From The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins (I'm not a Dawkins fan, I just found this interesting):

    The Founding Fathers considered religion to be a threat to democracy. Thomas Jefferson, for instance, claimed "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man" (p. 43). Benjamin Franklin said "Lighthouses are more useful than churches" (p. 43). A 1796 treaty signed by John Adams declares, "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" (p. 40).

    This guy has the right to do whatever he wants with his land, but what he chose to do makes him a jerk. And if the KIA really tried to force him off of his own land, then that's pretty crappy too. Hopefully, as time goes on, the neighbors will learn that having a mosque in their neighborhood isn't really distracting at all, and that the Muslim community is a pretty nice group of people to have around. Hey, I'll be going to that mosque whenever I'm in town.
     
  5. Burzmali

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    So having pig races is a symbol for this man wanting to lynch Islamic people?
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    This is one of my personal sore points, so if my response is disproportionate to the original statement I apologize. But, in the same way that when people claim that all the founding fathers were devoutly religious, this is a major distortion. Some were very religious and some were not at all. There were versions of the Constitution put forth that invoked the name of Jesus.

    'The Founding Fathers' couldn't agree on a unified set of principals and in fact disagreed quite vehemently, which is why the Constitution is as vague as it is. To say the founding fathers believed this or that is like saying every member of congress who is involved in passing a bill believes in the same thing.

    People go back and selectively interpret what evidence about the founding fathers that supports their position and then put it forth as proof that their position is correct. It occurs at every level of debate, from radio talk show hosts to Supreme Court justices and it is either incredibly disingenuous or incredibly lacking in self awareness to not see this as the rhetorical smoke and mirrors that it is. It is a 'red white and blue' herring.
     
  7. CometsWin

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    No, it's an attempt at intimidation. I said it was a bit comparable, not totally comparable.
     
  8. thatboyz

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    Okay, so it's still fair to say that America is not necessarily a "Christian nation"

    Burzmali's post that this is a Christian nation seems to imply that because Christianity is the majority religion in the U.S., other religions should expect to be treated with some resentment and intolerance. That's ridiculous, this guy turned a dispute over property and land value into a religious issue. Racing pigs has nothing to do with America being a "Christian nation", that's just a guy being a childish jerk.
     
  9. Kam

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    I don't want a Synagogue near my house.

    I will race Pigs instead.



    [insert jewish joke here, Kam]

    except that the jewish folks wouldn't mind, because I know they would throw some major dollars on it.

    [end sarcastic jewish joke here,]



    i'll save you trouble,

    Kam, you're such an idiot. cue Roll eyes.
     
  10. HayesStreet

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    How often has a white man burned a cross in his own yard? Haven't seen that one.
     
  11. tigermission1

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    The guy might be a jerk and all, but a comparing a pigs race to the KKK is groundless, IMO.

    I think he's just having a little bit of fun to piss off his new neighbors, that is all.

    If this dispute takes a more serious turn, then we can talk. Otherwise, try to resist the temptation...
     
  12. AntiSonic

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    Thanks for the props. Good to see I'm not on everyone's ignore list. ;)
     
  13. MadMax

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    absolutely. and others are free to criticize. no one is suggesting that what he's doing should be illegal. just that it shouldn't be celebrated as a good thing. that it shouldn't be met with a "good for him!!!"
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Well that depends on the reasons for doing it, if it is to stop his property values from going down, or just to tick off his new neighbors, those are 2 different things.

    But, I guess, depending on your perspecitive you could say either was a good thing...and the other side is free to think they are A$$holes.

    God bless America !!

    DD
     
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    Here's a picture of the old chap in front of his house:

    [​IMG]
     
  16. DaDakota

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    There I fixed it for you !

    :D

    DD
     
  17. MadMax

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    and i'm suggesting if your perspective is it's a good thing to try to intimidate, harrass and offend your neighbors, then that's a problem. particularly when the reason you're doing it is their religion and/or ethnicity.
     
  18. nyquil82

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    When I was a kid I used to have sex with the priest at my church to try to "rustle some feathers" in the congregation, much to what this guys is trying to do.

    No effect, whatsoever. But I did get a nintendo out of it. SWEET!!
     
  19. DaDakota

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    I agree, but they are free to do it, especially if they don't want the Mosque in their neighborhood.

    I would not want ANY church right next door to me.....and would consider taking up nude sun bathing as a protest.

    ;)

    DD
     
  20. Sishir Chang

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    Very well put. Claiming that the US is a Christian Nation so tough luck to other religions is like Mayor Nagin saying that NOLA is a black city. In both cases it is true there is a majority of one group but that doesn't mean that other groups shouldn't be afforded respect and fair treatment.
     

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