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BONZI WELLS: "i didn't come to run a marathon, i came to play basketball"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thacabbage, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. txppratt

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    i couldn't agree more!! we got TMAC sittin over here talking about retiring and you guys don't think we need bonzi's talent? without a superstar tmac, we need as much scoring punch as we can get. how much more WIN NOW can we get? we ain't finding that in a trade for bonzi's 2mil!

    quit ripping van gundy. you can't blame him for wanting bonzi to be in shape. but for heavens sake, if you guys want to trade bonzi, we might as well trade t-mac. he's playing like an *******. he's as much the reason we've lost games as anyone else.

    give van gundy a few more games. give bonzi a few more games. it's a long season. alot can happen in a few more games. pull your heads out! and quit whinin like babies! we're 6-3 - that's pretty good considering we haven't even built up a good chemistry yet - they're still finding an identity.
     
  2. aakhan786

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    JVG should play Bonzi at least 5-10 minutes, until he gets into shape. If he can play K.Snyder and Luther Head, he can play Bonzi. By the way, how come S.Novak is not playing. T-mac and JVG has so much praise on Novak, such as greatest shooter, he shoots lights out, etc..., but no playing time. Where's V-Span? Play these guys for at least 3-5 minutes to see how it plays out. Even if you get a spark out of them would be worth it.
     
  3. Yaozer

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    This friction between JVG and Bonzi THIS early in the season worries me. It seems like Bonzi is starting to dispise our coach.

    Jeff should really sit down with Bonzi and talk this whole mess out. Get on the same page and start from there.

    I hope just as badly as everyone in here that Bonzi will get it together with JVG and the team, and come in January ready to contribute. Chemistry should be much improved by then. But I wouldn't be surprised if Bonzi gets shipped off with hopefully Padgette or JHo for a decent PF.
     
  4. kobekb

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    Now,the battle begins...
     
  5. terse

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    Don't sell Bonzi short. Lots of people remember his performance in the playoffs last year.

    For example, Philly could use Bonzi, and I wouldn't mind getting Shavlik Randolph in return.
     
  6. bolatu123

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    for all I kown,I like BONZI
    but VAN GUNDY is not.
     
  7. kwik_e_mart

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    His days as a Rocket are quickly goin' down into the drain...

    Just give into his demands, let him play a few games to bump up his value, and trade him...

    He might turn into a cancer in the locker room...
     
  8. scutmb

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    IF JVG can not hand Wells like Rudy did Maxewell, ROcket will never win anything under JVG.
     
  9. TMac#1

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    Personally I don't think Bonzi will ever see the court again as a Rocket, meaning we have no real 3rd scorer, meaning that the lead blowing problems will continue because if T-Mac and Yao are out, the is NOBODY on this team that can generate their own offense. Except for Bonzi. Yao and Tmac are resting stick Bonzi in, and tada..instant offense and rebounding. Come on JVG, this isn't Mo Taylor or Derek Anderson. This team has a chance to be very special, please don't be a stubborn jackass.
     
  10. tiger0330

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    JVG played one of the worst conditioned athletes in the NBA and that was Yao. Bonzi may be out of shape but Yao is the only NBA athlete that I have ever seen go up/down/up a court and stop at center court with his hands on his knees while his teammates made it to the other end.

    No, JVGs issue is not with Bonzi being out of shape, its with Bonzi's you're just a coach not a god attitude. We could use Bonzi but JVGs disciplinarian style won't allow him to play Bonzi.
     
  11. Desert Scar

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    We need Wells to produce for us in the playoffs like he did for the Kings last year. I am not defending Wells attitude or weight or preparation, just recongnizing his talent. The team as it stands now is not title contender talented without him in the fold as the 3rd scorer. It isn't like we can just play hard ass, fire him to show some principle of work ethic, and find 10 other Bonzi talents in the NDBL just sitting there but without the attitude defects. In this case the supple of talent is limited, the NBA is about using what talents you have in the most effective way. Who would have thought Payton-J Will--Walker would have rounded out a champion, nodoby. Think Bison Dele, we just need to draw a year or two out of Bonzi. Great coaches find a way.
     
  12. Sofine81

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    This is the essence of what I was saying on [ages 12 and 13. IT is JVG, other coaches have gotten plenty out of Wells.
     
  13. dreammvp

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    What did memphis get out of him?? If thats the case, why is he changing teams so frequently? Why did no other team make a real push for him besides us? I know other teams were interested but nobody made a better offer than we did and that was only 2 million. Obviously he didn't come here for the money. He said he came here to win a championship. Really good method of trying to win one..sit on the bench and see if the rest of your teammates can win you one. He couldn't get more than 2 million a year anywhere else? He is a head case and a lazy ass but has talent. That is the only reason people want him. How come everytime a coach stands up to one of these Aholes, people want to call them out....I applaud JVG for not being another coach where the players run the team....Bouncy Whales MUST GO....
     
  14. dreammvp

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    Bonzi got much more hype only because of a 1 week stretch in last year's playoffs. Take that away, and people would thin alot less of him as a player. We don't need to think less of him as a person because we already know what a fat ass, egotistical, all about me person he already is. I'm not saying that he sucks as a player...I konw he has talent but last year's playoffs was an abbirration and not the norm with Bouncy....this is the real bouncy htat you have to deal with for 5 months and then you get one good week...is the payoff worth it? :confused:
     
  15. dreammvp

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    They said that bouncy whales was at the game riding a bike and then left the arena (didn't stay for the game). Here is an idea: make him ride his bike to and from the arena. That should get him back in shape quick as long as he doesn't stop on the way at KFC or Mcdonalds. Add another 100 lbs to him and he will be the next Oliver Miller?? (was that his name...dude who played for Phoenix and I think played college ball at Arkansas). We need to Bounce This Whale before the trading deadline and get something for him.
     
  16. v3.0

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    Rudy sent Maxwell home since Maxwell couldn't take being benched for Clyde. Sounds about the same thing JVG is doing to Bonzi.
     
  17. Van Gundier

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    1. From the Marc Stein thread, Stein said Wells is "not that far off" from being in shape. If he gets there soon, then I guess all problems are solved if he is capable of performing.

    An in-shape Wells (the one we saw last season) is a good player and can help the team. An out-of-shape Wells-- the one we saw earlier this season-- is not a good player and can only hurt the team.

    Van Gundy will play the guys who give him the best chance to win, if Wells can do that, he'll play and everyone will be happy.

    2. It's important to note that, despite Wells' b****ing about not running a marathon, he's still working out and riding his bike. So he's not disengaged and given up. On the other hand, Van Gundy hasn't said "I won't play him no matter what" or "I hate his attitude" or "he needs to STFU" either.

    The instruction is simple-- get in shape and you'll play.

    Hell, it's for his own good... if that ****** we saw out there early in the season gets PT, he'll only hurt Bonzi's value as a FA... he doesn't need future employers to see him playing badly. Also, he runs a bigger risk of injury. Ask Mike Sweetney why his knees have been hurting.

    If Bonzi won't take care of his body, somebody has do it for him.
     
  18. macfan

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    You know, I find irony in his choice of words. If you think about it, basketball is the most physically demanding sport. It requires agility, stamina and strength. Will all the amount of running during a game, it is more than running a marathon. So he actually has to run a marathon if he plays big minutes. :)
     
  19. MR. MEOWGI

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    How come some reporter can't get a good interview or something to find out the total story?
     
  20. abiko

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    You are not serious, are you? How many games you have watched/been at?

     

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