VSPAN could barely contain himself on the Bench !!

of course.. because that's reality... JVG sucks and that's why we lost the Spurs game and almost lost the Bulls game too..

 

Their minutes were not "abnormal" but still very high compared to what they were used to. And Sunday (Miami) to Tuesday (San An) is one day of rest, not two. If we were to use your reckoning, a back-to-back would count as one day of rest; most people would disagree seriously with that.

So explain why Juwan gets playing time... because he is even adequate on defence? It's hard to imagine either of the kids being worse than Juwan on D. And yes, I want this team to develop into a contender as much as you do -- but this requires a deep bench, which JVG is absolutely refusing to develop.

(By the way, guess who has the second best Roland Rating in New Jersey? (Kidd is #1 of course.) If you thought Vince or Jefferson, you would be wrong. It's Boki -- mostly because he plays exceptional defence:

http://www.82games.com/0607/0607NJN.HTM

JVG, of course, could not wait to dump Boki. What an acute evaluator of young talent, hey? You may be happy that the famous JVG insight is being applied to Novak and VSpan, but I am appalled.)

 

The Rox just can't go 48 minutes, they relax too much when they have a big lead, and JVG doesn't put in the bench when the starters can't get it done. If JVG wouold just put Novak, Hayes, V-Span, did you catch the performance by Scott Padgett? he was playing with heart, I don't know about you but, when I think of Padgett I think of a Barry, we need to get the last Barry.

 

VSPANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
we want vspan
we want vspan
we want vspan!

 

Hayes is injured don't you know! And he's our starter not bench! Are you a Rox fan?

Other then that, I support yah!
Bench players like Vspan/Novak/JLIII would play their hearts out too to fight for time!
Human-phsycology says: when you leading by 20pts, anyone on the court would slow down and have the mentality "I got 20pts to fall back on". This is when you MUST MUST use bench players! Even if they don't do well, you can always put starters back on after the rest. So 2 cases:

1) If Novak/Vspan couldn't hang on to that lead, you get your starters back on because they've been watching from sideline, and could feel the sense-of-urgency and step up again with a competing heart!!

2) If Novak/Vspan do keep the lead and extent on it! Then that's the most important and best news for HOUSTON!!!!

JVG... do you not understand this or you don't have guts or what? I really don't understand our coach.....

 

The Spurs just won their game against the Bulls. Just see how their coach spaced out PT among his starters and bench players. I hope JVG could learn something out of that because we need a deep bench in the playoff games. JVG should just give it a try for 2-3 games to see how it goes, otherwise with 9 players including JH, DM and SP we can't pass the first round.

 

Well, I somewhat agree with you there. I think Rafer has been great this season but we have had a couple games where our backcourt got torched and one of them was last night. Rafer was a huge -11 on the court. It was obvious that he did not have the answer defensively on Kirk and Gordon especially after Gordon got heated up. I would have liked to see VSpan for at least a couple minutes to see if he could break up Gordon's rhythm. If he had, it would have broken Chicago and we most likely would have walked away with a 25+ point differential win.

 

First off, GREAT video. Shows the pros of Spanoulis. I'd like to see a video by all the Nay-sayers to display spanoulis' faults(like how the turnovers were commited, since I only saw one preseason game and he played brilliantly at that) to have a comparison measure.

Agreed, especially on the EXTREMELY stupid excuse about pre-season, I'm sorry, i thought pre-season is to spot and correct mistakes, not judge players by it. And if you will, I don't want to judge Alston like many do, but everyone says he played better than so far, what's up with that, a few games make you an expert on judging performances?

And how did you think the starters became starters guys, by sitting in the bench? Doesn't compute. Of course people will make mistakes if you don't get burned you don't know what fire is like. Some things need experience.

The worse thing you can do to guys with fire burning, is bench them. we're talking young players, not too young in KillBill's case, as in Novak's, but still you do get frustrated as a person. I'm sure he didn't expect to play 30 mpg, but that's the other end.

If the coach really wanted to play him(and I think he doesn't), he would try him every other game or once every three-four games to see his progress and further correct mistakes improve what he's doing better.

That's what I think, but I'm not in JVG's head. I do understand he has a contract to honor and try to keep, also to maintain his winning streak in case Rox don't renew it, so he can find a work elsewhere, it's largely believed you can't win that easily with rookies, cause like was said they need time to develop themselves.

I respect that. But unless some miracle happens and they magically improve their game by not playing so much as to become starters(cause obviously, people here seem to have the CRAZY expectation them to play like vets to see playing time "our starters didn't win, do you expect them to?" and such), I'd say do something useful for the team and the players.

A trade is starting to sound nice to me at this point. Span and Nov are hot rookies still, I'm sure the Rox could get a good veteran that could help in the guard positions and give the starters their needed rest. There must be other teams out there that think they can be utilized.

I'm not opposing VG play, we have to find something that satisfies everyone. If he wants vets and USA based players, get him vets, no problem. Let's be reasonable.

 

Agreed. Vspan can guard Gordon tighter than his own shadow. Although, if Vspan is in, Tmac has to run the team, or ball will be flying all over the court

 

Rockets coach JVG SUCKS!!!! The reason why the Rockets loose the big leads in the fourth is that they ran out of gas. JVG plays the starters too much and tires them in the final minutes of the game. JVG doesn't know how to utilize the talents of his bench. If JVG plays his young players, this will give the starters rest and will be able to finish games strong. The young players also will be able to develop and be ready for next season. How can you improve and be better if you don't get the necessary experience? Our idiot coach JVG needs to be fired, we will not get deep into the playoffs with his style of coaching. The starters are playing a lot of minutes and this will contribute to injuries, fatigue in the long run, come playoff time, we don't have enough gas in the tank. JVG lacks trust in the capabilities of his players, and he will never play rookies. Too bad for the rooks they got into a bad situation in their first year. And why is Bonzi not playing? He will not be in shape if he is not playing DUH! FIRE JVG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

This is what is so frustrating about JVG, he is not willing to see what the rooks can do in real game situations. I to don't understand our coach and wish he would start playing Novak and VSpan. I hope he does play them soon.

 

Under the current circumstance, I can't see VSpan and Novak playing for significant minutes (at least 5 min) per game unless one of the following happens:

1) We have a solid lead of over 25 pts with 6-8 min left in the 4th quarter

2) Our major rotation has completely worn out and has several serious injuries as the season goes on and there's not enough players to play

3) Les, CD and other executives are not satisfied with JVG's coaching performance

4) Other coaching staff and/or our star players challenge JVG's strategies and ask him for a change

5) The negative impact of not playing the rookies has caused enough damage on the franchise and fans and media have put enough pressure on JVG

Maybe there are more...

IMO, I don't want scenario 2-5 to come to reality because that means chaos and will destroy the chemistry the team just established. If nobody can help, I wish GOD would blow some whistles in JVG's dream and clear his mind so he can finally realize it's now the time to play the rookies.

By the way, I wonder if this "not playing the rookies" approach is single-handedly controlled by JVG himself, or it is an agreement by a group of people including other coaching staff and the executives.


We fans care for the Rockets, that's why we criticise the teams because we want to help they get better. We want to see the whole team improve.

 

should i drop v-span off my fantasy team? i got him with my last pick a week ago thinking he might be a steal. will jvg ever play him?

 

JVG doesn't suck, he's just slow.

 

You might as well have Tracy Murray

 

#3 Les is our best way to bring about change. If Les gets enough E mails requesting an increase in the playing roster especially for Novak because a legitimate case can be made for him. Also V.Span to become the back up Point Guard to free Luther Head to concentrate on shooting threes.Then via the chain of command or by direct conversation Les will possibly make the effort .

 

Come on now Yetti.

Man, I want to see Billy like everybody else. Of course, last year, I kept wanting to see Chuck Hayes too and we kept getting Juwan for 30 minutes every night. Hey, it took a whole season but JVG finally figured out Hayes was a whol lot better answer than Juwan. (Sure hope that don't change just because of Chuck's injury).

This is where as fans you have to realize our limits and put some degree of confidence in the management of the team. We should be confident that at some point this year VSpan will get minutes. It will happen. It will happen as soon as Rafer goes into a shooting slump. Rafer and Head are getting the minutes because our offense has become McGrady centric to the point where he is initiating and distributing more than he is scoring. Once we get into the season and McGrady starts stringing together some big scoring games, and we start to need more of a facilitator at the point, and Rafer hits a cold snap shooting, we will see VSpan. And it will be up to VSpan to make the most of his minutes.

And if VSpan can keep the turnovers down and improve his jumper, we have the perfect setup in our backcourt. Him, in combination with Rafer, Head, McGrady, Snyder gives us the opportunity to go big in the backcourt (McGrady/Snyder with VSpan/Rafer), to go super big in the backcourt (McGrady at the point, Snyder at the 2), or to match up very well against any small backcourt combination like Chicago's VSpan/Rafer at point and Luther at 2).

Have confidence that Kill BIll will work himself into the rotation this year.

 

As long as JVG is coach, the rookies namely V Span, Novak, and LIII will never see playing time this season, unless all starters are injured. JVG has poor judgement about his players and is unable to tap the full potential of this talented rooks. Lets admit it, JVG don't trust this rooks, and its sad cause instead of them improving they become stagnant. Will somebody knock JVG in the head, and let him watch tapes and see why the great coaches like Pop and Phil succeed............its because they play their rookies, and develop them, thus they develop a dynasty. We will never win a championship with JVG coaching, we could have been 9-0 this time of the season.

 

It's highly unlikely assistant coach Charlie Ward and Yao Ming challenges JVG for a change. Ward will end up as an unemployed assistant coach. I don't think Yao would mutiny against JVG. I just don't see it in him. He'll have a mutiny against David Stern and the refs, if he has any. He looks ready to scream at the refs and tear them to shreads sometimes.

 

V Span will be an extremely valuable asset to the team. He is the type of role players who we need to surround our two superstars.

Go V Span!!!