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Just another reason to hate Mark Cuban

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by rhadamanthus, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Member

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    This guy needs to get a life. But I guess that's impossible if you're a maverick fan.

    http://www.businessweek.com/technol..._439093.htm?campaign_id=bier_tcv.g3a.rss1116g

    For the reading impaired - Cuban is trying to take down YouTube and Google simply to prove a point and mentally masturbate his ego.
     
  2. krnxsnoopy

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    Wait a second..

    Would Cuban be crazy to buy Los Angeles News Service? No doubt about it. Moronic would be an understatement of a lifetime,
     
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  3. professorjay

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    Or as Cuban calls it, "Thursday".
     
  4. tigermission1

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    Nothing would make me happier than to see Cuban go bankrupt while trying to 'massage' his own ego.

    The guy is a good entrepreneur and everything, but I hate his attention-whoring ways...
     
  5. KePoW

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    I don't see anything wrong with the principle of the argument against youtube in general (whether it's by Cuban or anyone else). the fact of the matter is, there's a lot of copyrighted material on youtube

    let me guess, you guys download MP3s too
     
  6. Rocket River

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    I made the commentary though
    I think he is right .. . I think YouTube was a Lawsuit waiting to happen
    I like it
    but
    With so much copyrighted material on it
    I was surprised they could get away with it

    Even a 'take down' policy . . .
    it is basically like me using bootlegg Microsoft office. . until I get caught
    then I will take it down . . but it i never do . . then I never will
    Is that right?


    Rocket River
     
  7. vlaurelio

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    i think he really believes that the news company has legal merits that he want to put his money down not only to embarass google but to make a quick buck
     
  8. Kim

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    I'm not a Cuban fan, but y'all should read his blog on this stuff at blogmaverick.com It's good stuff.

    The issue is much more complicated than the article can cover. It's about collusion, corporations lying and hiding stuff, corporations working together to keep money away from artists and the creators of Youtube content. It's really shady all the way around.

    Cuban takes a position that doesn't really benefit his pocketbook, and it's a position against corporate corruption, corporate collusion, and unethical behavior by Google, Youtube, and major media industries.

    Really, read the blog, it's very fascinating in my opinion. So while I'm no fan of Cuban and the Mavs forever suck ass, this stand he's taking against google is very cool, not a reason to hate.
     
  9. Cohen

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    Think about it though...why do you think some companies have already struck deals with YouTube?

    YouTube has incredible momentum and thus leverage. Most companies would prefer to 'strike a deal' rather than litigate.
     
  10. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

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    but buying this LA news agency WILL benefit his pocketbook especially if they win the lawsuit against google right?
     
  11. Kim

    Kim Member

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    According to Cuban and his insiders, the deals with major corps were struck as a prereq to Google acquiring Youtube...the deals were struck by Google essentially, and also the major corps are supposed to turn the other way in regards to copyright infringement during the acquisition. The deals were for past infringement. The major corps would then litigate against Youtube competitors to try to ruin their companies and help Youtube monopolize the market of this media. All the while they don't do any current litigation against youtube.

    Cuban sees this as all the big fish working together to illegally screw the small fish and also screwing artists and other creators of the content. He said it's full of illegal activity and that's why he's taking an active role.

    As stated, I don't like Cuban, but if there were people like him during the Enron scandel, Enron wouldn't have happened the way it did.
     
  12. Kim

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    I think he'd make more money keeping his nose out of this. These are some billion dollar companies colluding with eachother. Owning the small company and winning a suit wouldn't be much in my opinion compared to the legal costs. The real threat against the companies is what a lawsuit would uncover in terms of illegal activity, in which the Federal government can use to fine or imprison those from Google, Youtube, and major corporations involved.
     
  13. rrj_gamz

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    LOL...Cuban is ghey, not that there's anything wrong with that...
     
  14. Rocket River

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    I prefer this method
    Reward innovation rather than try to squash it with Litigation

    Rocket River
     
  15. Rocket River

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    If what he says it true
    I am Majorly glad he is exposing it

    This type of Collusion should be outlawed

    Rocket River
     
  16. vlaurelio

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    thats what I'm saying.. if he wants the lawsuit to continue, there are other ways of supporting it.. can't he make a contribution to the companies' legal fund.. putting his money down and investing on the plaintiff means he's trying to cash on it if they win no matter how small the amount relatively is.. cuban is a businessman first.. not that there's anything wrong with that..
     
  17. Highwire

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    Saw a TV interview of D Trump on NBC. Donald called Cuban a loser. He said that having money is not the gauge of a winner but being able to get what he really want and money is just a tool. As an example Trump site the big loss of the Mavs in the finals this year. He also said that Mark likes to make up stories in order to get attention.
     
  18. Kim

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    You mean the Donald Trump who was bankrupt because he couldn't manage his own finances and had to have the government seize control of his assets and appoint someone to have control and watch over all his money and manage it until he became rich again. You mean that Donald Trump, the guy who got all his money from his dad's real estate dealings?

    Hey, I'm not a Cuban fan, but Trump sucks much more ass.
     
  19. rhadamanthus

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    I'm bored so I'll go ahead and respond.

    1) Going after google and youtube can hardly be called "ethical" if it furthers one's own interests:

    2) The DMCA is supposed to mean that YouTube and Google are not responsible for what their users upload, but are obliged to remove all copyrighted material when requested to do so by the copyright holders. This is only part of the DMCA that is actually right*. Otherwise Clutch would be personally responsible for any copyrighted matieral we bozos posted on this forum. Cuban's whole premise is flawed and unethical, as it distorts the reality of youtube/google policy.

    3) No matter what the motivation, taking down google is NOT GOOD.

    *Don't get me started on copyright law :mad:
     
  20. Oski2005

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    Cuban's a hypocrite, he paid for the lawyers of some P2P network that was being sued by MGM. Now he's against Youtube for copyright infringement? It is about ego because he said that Google was making a mistake for aquiring Youtube because of the potential for lawsuits. Now that they are making deals to avoid those lawsuits, he has to go buy a company and sue Youtube himself to make his prophecy come true.
     

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