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Lenovo stats yield interesting results for our Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ClutchCityReturns, Nov 9, 2006.

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http://www.nba.com/statistics/lenovo/lenovo_sort.jsp?pcomb=5&season=22006&split=9&team=

That link will take you to a page that looks at the Lenovo +/- efficiency stat for 5 player combinations. The Rockets currently hold the #1 most efficient 5 man combination...

Rafer Alston
Tracy McGrady
Shane Battier
Chuck Hayes
Yao Ming

Use the drop down menu on the far left to change to 4 man, 3 man, 2 man combos and then down to a single player.

I think you will find that our Rockets are pretty dominating when it comes to this stat, and I think you'll be especially intrigued when you get to the single player +/- rankings...

And let me add, before people bash me or this post, that I do not think this statistic (or any statistic for that matter) means a whole hell of a lot. It's just one of many indicators of how our players are performing, and it's nice to see them toward the top.

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Cool, what is leveno?

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Who can tell me what does this exactly mean?

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PC or notebook manufacturer. Chinese owned company.

#4 freemaniam, Nov 9, 2006
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kikimama said:

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What is the Lenovo +/- Stat?

The Lenovo Stat shows the power of teamwork. It's a way of showing the best-engineered/best combination of players on the court. The Lenovo Stat is a plus/minus statistic that looks at the point differential when players are both in and out of the game, to see how the team performs with various combinations. The Lenovo Stat can look at a variety of combinations – including the best two player, three player and even five player combinations for each game.
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Per NBA.com

Thought it was pretty self-explanatory from my first post, but there you have it. If you mean what is Lenovo itself, as someone said it's a PC manufacturer.

#5 ClutchCityReturns, Nov 9, 2006
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ClutchCityReturns said:

http://www.nba.com/statistics/lenovo/lenovo_sort.jsp?pcomb=5&season=22006&split=9&team=

And let me add, before people bash me or this post, that I do not think this statistic (or any statistic for that matter) means a whole hell of a lot. It's just one of many indicators of how our players are performing, and it's nice to see them toward the top.
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It just means that our subs suck

#6 JWhaley, Nov 9, 2006
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It is some sort of plus/minus stat, but I don't know how they're calculating it.

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who'd a thunk it.

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kikimama said:

Cool, what is leveno?
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Chinese PC manufacture of the original IBM Thinkpad, bought IBM's PC division and the right of the brand "Thinkpad".

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Wow, we dominated from 1 player to 5 palyers. get the top 2 position in 2 players, top 3 position in 3 players. Why ain't we 5-0?

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It would be interesting to see how they calculate the statistics. Currently, they have Chuck Hayes as the top individual player in the NBA.

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interesting. thanks for sharing ClutchCityReturns.

so basically, in any of the 2 or more men combinations the rockets dominating all others. when look at the single player's +/-, surprise surprise, who'd have thought, hayes is #1! and on top of that, rafer #6, battier #12, yao #twenty something and tmac is not even on the 1st page (#1-25)! wow! so can one clude that the reason for the rockets dominating is not because (mainly) of tmac, or yao. it's hayes!

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Hayes and Alston are our 2 most efficent players and the best 2 player combo in the league. Yao and TMac who?

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ccjj said:

Wow, we dominated from 1 player to 5 palyers. get the top 2 position in 2 players, top 3 position in 3 players. Why ain't we 5-0?
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I told you, it means our subs suck

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durvasa said:

It is some sort of plus/minus stat, but I don't know how they're calculating it.
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+ points scored vs. - opponent points allowed when play together

1. Hayes is lucky charm of rockets
2. best pair Hayes with yao.
3. our start lineup is set with Yao, Hayes, Battier, TMac, Alston.
if they play 48min and score 114, the opponent will scoer only 81, its blowout everynight!!!

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Take all stats in context. I believe +/- stats are more of a measure of how a player differs from their sub vs. how they compare to the opposing team. That's why there are stats folks looking into adjusted +/- stats to account for other things.

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If you click on just Houston Rockets it gives you the 50 different combos we have used. None of our combos have been that bad so far, and Vspan is + in the one I found him in. The Novak combos are only a few pts neg but this may be because of the strong positive Mavs game.

Fresh legs Jeff, fresh legs.

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rox2007 said:

+ points scored vs. - opponent points allowed when play together

1. Hayes is lucky charm of rockets
2. best pair Hayes with yao.
3. our start lineup is set with Yao, Hayes, Battier, TMac, Alston.
if they play 48min and score 114, the opponent will scoer only 81, its blowout everynight!!!
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Thanks. I guess I missed the obvious definition. I thought they were somehow accounting for what the team did without the player(s) on the floor as well.

So it's just a straightforward +/-. I wonder why they're making a big deal about it by calling it a "Lenovo" stat.

I notice that the numbers from popcornmachine.net are slightly different from what's shown here. Not by much, though.

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Only stats that count are W's

I digress

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nice! the rocket lineup has the most VGMS! yall should play fantasy

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