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From the standpoint of a Republican..

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket Fan, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. Rocket Fan

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    I consider myself a Republican, but at the end of the day, I'm an American and always want the country to do well.

    I wanted the Republicans to do well at the national level (I'm glad they did well in Texas:) ) and hope they do well in 2008, but in the end what matters is whether the country does well.

    Hopefully Republicans will want congress to do a good job the next two years even if its under Democrats and Democrats will want the president to do a good job over the next couple of years.

    Hopefully both sides can work together! Congrats to the Democrats who won seats as well as the Republians that won their elections.
     
  2. The Real Shady

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    I'm also a Republican but I elected not to vote because I was interested in some sort of change. Hopefully the Dems will do a good job, and we can get America headed in the right direction.

    The Election in 2008 should be interesting as I could be excited about both candidates. Obama and McCain would make for an interesting election, and would be different then the norm of having to select from the candidate I hate the least.
     
  3. Rocket Fan

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    I guess the point of my post is that I want the Democrats or whoever is in power to do well. Whether it be the party I tend to vote for or the other party, the most important thing is that the country does well.

    So I will hope that the Democrats do a good job in Congress. Granted I'd like to see the Republicans have a strong election in 2008, but as long as the Democrats have the majority in Congress I hope they do well.

    I think people sometimes get so caught up in which party they support, but in the end it's in our best interest when the country does well even if it isn't the party that got our votes.
     
  4. texanskan

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    I like your thoughts but the dems don't have a large enough majority to push their agenda (since Bush has veto power) but I agree I want things to get done.

    I am a republican who was glad to see my party do well in our state but I am not that upset with many of the wins on a national level since many dems were moderate and I have voted in the past for many moderate dems myself.
     
  5. Deckard

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    I really appreciate your positive outlook. Instead of trying to find bitterness in the results, and a negative outlook, you're hoping for positive change. If a lot of Republicans feel as you do, and I personally know several that do, we may actually get some good things done for the country. Bush is moving into his "Texas Governor" mode of bipartisan cooperation... something he did very well in Texas, and promptly abandoned when he won the White House, to the surprise of a lot of us. I hope he sticks to it.

    Good to see you post in here with the "poo-flinging monkeys." ;) Please don't be a stranger! Same to you, Shady, but vote next time! :cool:



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  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I hope that government basically shuts down for the next two years and the Republicans can take control of both houses back and maintain the presidency.
     
  7. geeimsobored

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    or you could hope that the new Congress gets some important stuff done and fixes some problems?
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    Bush has never ever used his power of veto and has already said he is willing to work with the Dems on immigration and min wage. :mad:
     
  9. Deckard

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    And that makes you angry? Why? If the minimum wage goes up a couple of bucks an hour, for the first time in like forever, is it going to threaten your job? My wife's mother was an immigrant, and my family immigrated here early enough to fight in the Texas Revolution. Are you afraid of immigrants?



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  10. Rule0001

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    A minimum wage increase would cause higher unemployment.

    http://www.mises.org/story/2130 good article

    I guess you could say i'm against minimum wage because I care about immigrants.
     
  11. Major

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    We've already been over this in another thread, but no, it wouldn't.
     
  12. Deckard

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    I know that. You know that. Apparently, he didn't get the memo.



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  13. Rule0001

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    How so?

    ""The high rate of unemployment among teenagers, and especially black teenagers, is both a scandal and a serious source of social unrest. Yet it is largely a result of minimum wage laws. We regard the minimum wage law as one of the most, if not the most, antiblack laws on the statute books.""

    - MILTON FRIEDMAN
     
  14. CBrownFanClub

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    Cool. I hope the Democrats in the legislature do right by your open minded outlook -
     
  15. SamFisher

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    Milton Friedman is a great theoretical economist. However, if you want to see how theory translates to reality, take Milton Friedman, move him about, say 30 blocks south of his Hyde Park office, somewhere along south Stony Island Avenue (or west, along Cottage Grove), and we will see how theory works in the real world. I give him about 12 seconds.

    Now, this isn't probative, but it's a metaphor on how pretty, elegant, economic theories don't always have the same real world resullts that they would be expected to have.
     
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    Right, because it should be every employer's god given right to work black teenagers for less than $5.15 per hour. After all, they're only black teenagers, so they don't need money.
     
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    I would love to hear everyone's explanation on how a minimum wage increase would not hurt unemployment.

    Raise the price of something, demand goes down. That's a fact. I don't know how you even argue this.

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    And apparently "real black people" haven't been all that supportive of minimum wage hikes. http://www.nationalcenter.org/MinWage.html
     
  18. Rocket Fan

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    Deckard.. thanks for the post.

    I want Republicans to do better in 2008 and wanted the party I voted for to win this election. However, I always want the country to do well so now that the election is passed that means I hope the elected officals (both Democrat and Republians) are able to do a good job.

    I'm not someone who hopes for a party to fail just so the party I vote for can take control again. I want to see the country do well, even if the party I tend to vote for isn't in office.

    The bottom line is that the people in office represent us and I hope to see them do a great job.

    On a side note, I was at the President Bush/ Governor Perry event in Dallas the other night. That was an awesome event. As a Republican I enjoyed it, but I think I'd enjoy seeing a Democratic President as well (such as Clinton).

    Just awesome to see a current president, since it is an amazing office and all. It would be cool to see President Clinton speak as well and any president.
     
  19. Deckard

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    When I was a teenager, my Mom took me out of school to see Jack Kennedy give a speech at Rice Stadium in Houston. I've never forgotten it. It's really is awesome.



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  20. ima_drummer2k

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    I usually vote Republican, but this time I voted against every incumbent without paying attention to the little letter next to their name. I unleashed my own brand of term limits on their ASSES.

    I view yesterday as the country putting the Republicans in 'time out'. I sincerely hope they learned their lesson. I hope they got the message loud and clear. I hope they take the next 2 years to get their house back in order (no pun intended). Get back to being...oh, I don't know....conservative? :eek:

    I heard on the radio that a LOT of Republicans stayed away from the polls this time around. If we're pissed off at our party, it's going to take more than John Kerry's dumb comments or banning gay marraige to earn our votes. And for the record, I couldn't give a sweet Christ about gay marraige.

    I'm going to keep a close eye and an open mind on what goes on in the House (and maybe Senate) for the next 2 years. Democrats, you have my attention. Convince me to switch over....and I will.
     

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