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A Former Rabid Republican, "This Is No Fun"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by gifford1967, Oct 31, 2006.

  1. gifford1967

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    John Cole from the previously pro-Republican blog Balloon Juice just can't stomach it anymore.



    This Is No Fun
    By: John Cole October 31, 2006 at 4:02 pm

    I just thought I would go on record stating that the last few weeks and months have really sucked for me. I spent my whole life in the GOP- starting in 1984 with county meetings, going to Teenage Republican camp (my friends called it Hitler Youth Camp, proving that Nazi/Republican quips are no new development), and spending the better part the fall of 1984 going door to door for John Raese in his race against Rockefeller (Raese, as you know, lost). Now, 22 years later, I find myself not only refusing to support Raese against Robert Byrd (the man who for years has embarassed me with his pork), but I have come to the conclusion that the Republicans are so corrupt, so dishonest, so beholden to special interests and fanatical lobbying groups that Byrd not only looks to be the better option, but the entire Democratic party looks better.

    I don’t know when things went south with this party (literally and figuratively- and I am sure commenters here will tell me the party has always been this bad- I disagree with that, and so do others), but for me, Terri Schiavo was the real eye-opener. Sure, the Prescription Drug Plan was hideous and still gets my blood pressure pumping, and the awful bankruptcy bill was equally bad, and there were other things that should have clued me in, but really, it was Schiavo that made me realize this party was not as advertized. And it is frustrating as hell.

    What makes this even more frustrating is that not only do I feel like I have been duped, but I established a lot of friends in the right wing of the blogging community- and now I read their pages and I can’t believe what I am reading, even though I know that five years ago I probably would have been saying the same or similar things. I know many of them as people- and not just GOP parrots- having spent time working on collaborative projects with them, serving on the editorial board at Red State, appearing on radio shows with them- you name it. I have, at one point in time, defended many of them from what I perceived to be unfair attacks. So I know that by and large they are not bad people (Dan Riehl is an unmitigated *******, however). Yet I read their pages now, and through my eyes, it looks like they are so divorced from reality it makes me question what, if anything, I ever believed in.

    In short, it really sucks looking around at the wreckage that is my party and realizing that the only decent thing to do is to pull the plug on them (or help). I am not really having any fun attacking my old friends- but I don’t know how else to respond when people call decent men like Jim Webb a pervert for no other reason than to win an election. I don’t know how to deal with people who think savaging a man with Parkinson’s for electoral gain is appropriate election-year discourse. I don’t know how to react to people who think that calling anyone who disagrees with them on Iraq a “terrorist-enabler” than to swing back. I don’t know how to react to people who think that media reports of party hacks in the administration overruling scientists on issues like global warming, endangered species, intelligent design, prescription drugs, etc., are signs of… liberal media bias.

    And it makes me mad. I still think of myself as a Republican- but I think the whole party has been hijacked by frauds and religionists and crooks and liars and corporate shills, and it frustrates me to no end to see my former friends enabling them, and I wonder ‘Why can’t they see what I see?” I don’t think I am crazy, I don’t think my beliefs have changed radically, and I don’t think I have been (as suggested by others) brainwashed by my commentariat.

    I hate getting up in the morning, surfing the news, and finding more and more evidence that my party is nothing but a bunch of frauds. I feel like I am betraying my friends in the party and the blogosphere when I attack them, even though I believe it is they who have betrayed what ‘we’ allegedly believe in. Bush has been a terrible President. The past Congresses have been horrible- spending excessively, engaging in widespread corruption, butting in to things they should have no say in (like end of life decisions), refusing to hold this administration accountable for ANYTHING, and using wedge issues to keep themselves in power at the expense of gays, etc. And I don’t know why my friends on the right still keep fighting for these guys to stay in power. Why do they keep attacking decent people like Jim Webb- to keep this corrupt lot of fools in office? Why can’t they just admit they were sold a bill of goods and start over? Why do they want to remain in power, but without any principles? Are tax cuts that important? What is gained by keeping troops in harms way with no clear plan for victory? With no desire to change course? With our guys dying every day in what looks to be for no real good reason? Why?

    I really don’t know where this post is going, so I will just end it now, but I do have to say the past few months have really sucked, and I am completely disillusioned.
     
  2. Saint Louis

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    Here is a link to the article: Link
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yep, the Reagan republicans are all gone now....time to vote Dems, bring back free love.

    DD
     
  4. gifford1967

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    Thanks
     
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    As big of a Democrat as I am ( and in my youth I considered myself a Republican), I never disliked the Republicans until about Oct. of 2001.

    This fine party has been hijacked. Things like small government and fiscal responsibility are not in the vocabulary of this administration.

    These are not Republicans; they are just about expanding the powers of the executive branch and selling out to corporate America.

    Every Republican who fell in line with these very non-Republican ideas should be held accountable.
     
  6. Saint Louis

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    I completely agree, another former Republican.
     
  7. lpbman

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    One more to the list...
     
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    As am I...

    Growing up with insanely conservative parents, it's almost inevitable to start thinking for yourself once you hit the college age...
     
  9. Saint Louis

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    So true, you reach a point where you start to see the world for yourself and not through your parents eyes.

    What is funny is that I still hold true to the beliefs of responsible, efficient and cost effective government. Maybe those beliefs are unrealistic, but without goals/dreams, what is there then?

    What I see today out of the American government is pure madness. Will a government run by the Democratic party save the day? I don't think so anymore. When CEOs make 200+ times as much as the average employee of major corporations, there is a problem. When the government knows best and views that differ are labelled as siding with the enemy, there is a problem. When a country's thirst for a certain way of life, especially a resource wasteful way of life, is worth backing policies that knowingly lead to the death of innocents, especially children, there is a problem. When doing things in secret, without fair representation, without due process, there is a problem. When laws are rewritten to fit the whims of those in charge, there is a problem. When we are told to worry more about abortion when our country grossly underfunds education, and I despise abortion, there is a problem. When we concern ourselves with whether two men or two women say they are married, yet worry little about hunger, poverty, sickness and the well being of future generations, there is a problem. Recently someone said they might be able to get me a better paying job at Raytheon. I declined the offer because it is bad enough I pay taxes that contribute to the problem, but I am not going to work for someone that profits from the problem.
     
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    I agree as well. I respected Republicans, although I rarely agreed with their stances on issues. IMHO, when the Republican party began to politicize 9/11 and using it to stifle dissent, the slide began.
     
  11. gifford1967

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    Here's another one. Frank Schaeffer is a conservative columnist for the Dallas Morning News.



    Frank Schaeffer: I should be supporting Allen. Instead, I'm leaving the party.


    07:52 AM CST on Wednesday, November 1, 2006


    I'm a Christian, a writer, a military parent and a registered Republican.

    On all those counts, I was disgusted by an e-mail I just received that's being circulated by campaign supporters of Republican George Allen, who's trying to retain his Senate seat in Virginia.

    The message goes like this: "First, it was the Catholic priests, then it was Mark Foley, and now Jim Webb, whose sleazy novels discuss sex between very young teenagers. ... Hmmm, sounds like a perverted pedophile to me! Pass the word that we do not need any more pedophiles in office."Democrat James Webb is a war hero and former Marine, wounded in Vietnam and winner of the Navy Cross. He was writing about class and military issues long before me and has articulated the issue of how the elites have dropped the ball on military service in his classic novel Fields of Fire. By the way, that's a book Tom Wolfe calls "the greatest of the Vietnam novels."

    Mr. Webb's son is a Marine in Iraq. That's an uncommon fact in this era in which most political leaders' children act as if it is only right and proper that it's someone else's war to fight.

    Mr. Webb also happens to be running against a desperate opponent supported by people who circulated the stupid e-mail, something that reminds me of a 2000 smear campaign aimed at another war hero, John McCain.

    I never served in the military. It was my son's unexpected volunteering that connects me to the military family and to my country. And I've been voting Republican for years. My late father – Dr. Francis Schaeffer – was an evangelical theologian, friend to Jerry Falwell and White House guest of Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford and the first President Bush.

    I have nice handwritten letters from various members of the Bush family, including Barbara, thanking me for my books on military service. So I have every reason to stay in the Republicans' good graces. (It's nice to be complimented on television by the First Lady.)

    But enough is enough. I've had it with Republican smears.

    The Webb e-mail is the embodiment of the cynical Republican strategists, some of whom must know the difference between fiction and nonfiction. Was Agatha Christie a murderer because she wrote about murder?

    According to the Allen camp's logic, God would be a pedophile, too. After all, we Christians believe God inspired the Bible. And God-the-author chose to include the "sleazy" story about Lot offering to send out his young virgin daughters to be raped by the men of Sodom.

    The Bible has masturbation scenes, rape, pedophilia and God's favorite man – King David – warming himself with a young virgin in his old age. He's the same man God tells us committed murder after he indulged his peeping Tom fantasies.

    Lucky for God-the-author that He's not running against George Allen.

    I just got back from a visit to Parris Island and was struck again – as I was on the proud day of my son's boot camp graduation there as a Marine in 1999 – by the moral credibility of the drill instructors and selflessness of the recruits.

    Our political leaders should learn from them. In fact, our future leaders should be them. We need to compare today's leaders to those of the past, who earned credibility beyond the reach of cynicism and irony – and cheap smear tactics.

    People like Mr. McCain – who is "for" the war in Iraq – and Mr. Webb – who is "against" the war – should be respected no matter one's politics or ideas about the war. Why? Because they paid their dues.

    My wife and I have reached the tipping point. We plan to go to town hall to dump our Republican voter registration and reregister as independents. I don't care anymore what party someone is in. These days, what I care about is what they're made of.

    Wartime demands leaders with character and moral authority. The political party smearing Mr. Webb proves it has neither.

    Frank Schaeffer is the author of "Baby Jack," a novel about Marines. His e-mail address is frank@frankschaeffer.net.


    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...haeffer_01edi.ART.State.Edition1.3eab2ff.html
     
  12. nyquil82

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    I still don't like democrats that much, but I distance myself from the republican party the day they decided they wanted to go to Iraq.
     
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    how ironic that the great decider may turn out to be the great vaccinator against republican rabies.
     
  14. Deckard

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    For months I've been talking abvout Republicans, many former Democrats who changed parties because of Reagan, telling me they were voting Democratic this time... that they just couldn't take the current leadership of the GOP, and Bush, and longer, and that they needed to be beaten, and beaten badly to reform the GOP. That's what we're seeing today. Just watch. It's happening.




    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  15. No Worries

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    I was completely politically agnostic (both parties were bought and sold by the same interests, in various degrees, so it was hard to get exceited one way or another). Then came the axis of evil speech where W essentially said we were going to war with Iraq. Now I am writing checks to Emily's List, Harold Ford, James Webb, etc., thanks to The Great Uniter.
     

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