Well I attended my first UT game in 1973...how about you? And don't put f***ing words in my mouth. I never said 'we're Texas and I don't think it. I don't expect perfection. We've gotten burned on some big plays on D, but that just happens. Our D plays extremely well overall. On offense, we have a young QB; again, no problem. He'll have a few misreads and make some mistakes...that's all ok. It's to be expected. I think Mack rocks (and always have), love Chizik, love our players, and believe that Davis has some redeeming qualities (he appears knowledgable and in control during practice and the players appear well-coached), but his play-calling is the weakest link in this program, and it is avoidable. It's not one of the imperfections that are a part of the game and to be accepted. It's not about arrogance, it's about the d*mn truth.
Nope. Vince was permitted more autonomy and it was his legs that made Davis look good. Defense anticipating Davis' pass play? See Vince run...see how good Davis call was? yeah right
and scored almost nothing against ou. top 25 teams like ttech and a&m. not top 25 teams with good defenses like an sec defense or ou. tech was top 10 last year and probably top 25 most other years when we played them but it wasn't their crappy defense making that happen. we beat washington in the holiday bowl but their defense sucked as well. michigan wasn't even known for their defense (and was notoriously bad against mobile qb's). i'm guessing our ppg against above average defenses, even excluding ou, is nothing to write home about but i don't wanna figure out where everyone ranked for 5 years. the problem is someone still had to tell greg at halftime to stop playing not to lose. because apparently the lesson he should've learned from the first 100 times he did it didn't take. we scored 21 against an ou defense that gave up 23 ppg against uab, oregon, and washington. it wasn't shocking that we couldn't top those teams average. no, it very much isn't. the greg davis who trusts his players is very different from the one who doesn't. i don't see how you are arguing this. it's basically impossible to argue. and putting up 7 against osu, the one real defense he's faced. usc hasn't had a history of scoring nothing against their biggest rivals or against the best defenses they face. they've scored at least 20 for something like 57 games in a row. we haven't. one dude being pissed off about their offense that has produced 3 heisman winners in 4 years and quite a few records is different than our entire fanbase seeing something that was fairly obvious for 5 years while we shriveled against good defense after good defense. we didn't make up the ou games or something. we score enough on bad to average teams to make the overall stats look nice, but until the last year and a half, didn't show up when it counted. i don't hope for greg davis to call bad games just because i want something to b**** about during the week. i'd be perfectly happy if i never b****ed about him again and he called games like the second half of ou or the previous 18 months. but he hasn't shown that he will.
Great, so we're each entitled to our equal opinion. It's even more amazing (or sad) that his play-calling appears so predictable to so many of us laymen.
This is your whole argument which in your mind trumps everything else. Perhaps you should join us sometime in 2006 rather than October 2004. shockingly, Vince Young 2005 is very different from Colt McCoy 2006. I don't see how you're arguing this. it's basically impossible to argue. Do YOU trust Colt as much as Vince? Where have you been? It's not one dude. Google "conservative play calling" and you will find that college and pro football fans everywhere are up in arms about too conservative playcalling....what we need are some real RIVERBOAT GAMBLER TYPES TO START CALLING GAMES. June Jones and Mike Leach will play for the BCS title next year I just know it.
Not when you realize the amount of laymen like you who lodge the same complaint about coaches from Alvarez to Zook every monday morning, since time immemorial.
No one's saying the offense isn't productive. The problem is that it often isn't productive against good defenses, because it's predictable, because it concedes initiative to the defense, because it often plays against our strengths and doesn't go after the weaknesses on the defense. It's not like it happened once or twice - it was a real problem. Until the Missouri game in '04 when Ramonce Taylor was our leading passer, and Vince Young was the leading reciever. After that game, the coaching staff let Vince be Vince and we won 20 straight and a national title. At times this year, including the aforementioned RRS, Davis has seemed to regress to that kind of predictable play-calling. It's weird you mention the RRS, but forget to point out that Mack had to tell Davis to let the kid loose after a horrible 2nd quarter. We still win that game no matter what Davis does, but dammit - why did it take until the 3rd quarter for Davis to go after OU's defense?
What difference does that make? Did we leave half our TDs on the field? Shall we deconstruct 8 years of play calling? I don't really care to, I don't care what other think about this. I've watched the games and developed my opinion over time. Not quite experiential, but also not some historical event read about in a book to be discussed and debated. A few of you will have your opnion on the subject, and all the rest of us will have the right one. I doubt anything said here will change anything.
1986. so why are you adamantly complaining then? I guess I'm just a fan of the status quo, even if Davis isn't the best O-coordinator around. I'm happy with 10-13 wins a season and a NC once every 5 or 10 years or whatever as far as it being 'avoidable', which scenario are you talking about? the one where Davis is fired/leaves or you mean just him changing his offensive philosophy. if it's the former, yeah that's hypothetically avoidable, but I think we all know that in reality that's never going to happen now after the NC. personally, I don't think about stuff that would only happen in ideal fantasy. if it's the latter, then I guess that could always happen at some point. it just gets old hearing the same thing every UT game weekend
It's weird that you mention the RRS and not mention the perfect play call on 3rd and goal that sealed the game on the touchdown to Shipley. And it's also weird that you didn't mention in that second quarter where the offense sputtered, the defense allowed OU to control the ball and had a hard time tackling Peterson. Actually it's not weird, you're just recycling the same rigged arguments again and again. Focus only on the negative and ignore/downplay the positive. Result = negative PERSPECTIVE
So you're arguing that Texas should be scoring 80 ppg this year? You don't have to deconstruct 8 years, but the way you guys focus on the bad and never the good - and I mean NEVER, except in a backhanded way, warps your perspective. PERSPECTIVE
holy lord, stop being so dense. I loved that play call - WHY DID IT TAKE UNTIL THE 3RD QTR TO SEE IT? That's all I want to know. Why don't we see more play calls like it? Why does it take Mack Brown telling his OC to let the kid loose until we see that in tight situation?
Not me. I'm a businessman. I have patience and understand that many things take years to accomplish. That cycles will occur. That learning occurs through experience which include trial and error. I've defended Mack Brown, Rudy T, Alston, Wesley, and others when many were quick to judge or lay blame. So if you want to dismiss opinion such as mine with generalizations, guess you will have to come up with more generaliztions.
Why did it take you until the 11th page of this thread to remember it? And why don't we see more 6 yard sideline patterns? Is that what you're asking? LOL, I hope not because that will get people chanting "EAST WEST PASSIGN GAME" over and over.
You took that quite literally ... heh. Yeah, me and everyone else who disagrees with you just focus on the bad and never the good.
Generalization? That's no generalization at all. You will not find a single solitary coach in this land, whetheer successful or not, who is not scrutinized for his play calling by people who know no better. But if you want specific facts, I've provided them: #4 offense in the land. PERSPECTIVE
You respond to points I never make. I remembered it, I liked it - It's indicative of the Greg Davis we saw last year - the one that trusted his players to make tough plays. I didn't like the play calling in the first half of that game - or the red zone against Nebraska - it's indicative of Greg Davis circa 2003.
all of last year? what about during the first half of the Oklahoma State game last year? point is, in college football you can't kick ass every single quarter of every single game
