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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by NIKEstrad, Aug 16, 2001.

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  1. NIKEstrad

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    Berman corrected other sources claiming conditions based on the number of games Rice played. He said it was inaccurate.

    The Rockets will decide tomorrow (I think I heard on 610 today that the Rockets will have a press conference at noon) on what they will do.

    The Rockets can receive additional compensation from either team. Berman mentioned the Mavericks have a large interest in seeing this deal through.
     
  2. Rocketball

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    Berman is correct. I don't believe that you can have conditional draft picks in the NBA. Therefore, the compensation must be something else.
     
  3. Achebe

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    Nearly every draft pick exchange has some sort of conditions applied to them.
     
  4. bobrek

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    Conditions on draft picks are usually WHEN you will get them. It originally sounded like the condition was IF the Rockets would get it. In other words, it sounds like they cannot work out a trade that the Rockets would get a draft pick IF Rice is not healthy.
     
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    Does anyone think getting Donyell Harvey or Eduardo Najera from Dallas as part of compensation in the Rice deal could be useful for the Rockets?Kenny Thomas is better than both of them but if he or Griffin get injured our rebounding could suffer a lot.
     
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    There are never conditions on whether or not a team will give you a draft pick. The only condition a team can put on the trade is when they have to give it to the team or it can be lottery protected. For instance, a team may trade away a first round pick and can give it to the team anytime within a span of so many years, that is the only condition you put on it.

    A team cannot say we will give you a pick if such and such happens, for instance a player misses so many games, your team doesn't make the playoffs, the player injury gets worse, and so on. So, the information the New York Post gave is false, because the Knicks can't say to the Rockets, if Rice doesn't play in 85% of the games, then we will give you a first round pick. That is not allowed in the NBA, you either have to give them the pick or some other compensation for them taking the risk.

    That is the way I understand the rules, I could be wrong, granted that hardly ever happens :rolleyes: ....
     
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    According to the Fox report, you cannot place any conditions on a draft pick other than the year it is forwarded and the position in the draft (i.e. lottery protected, top 3 protected, etc). For example, the Rockets could not be given a draft pick if Glen Rice played only 70% of his games this season. That is an incentive-based condition and it is not allowable under the rules of the CBA according to Fox and Mark Berman.
     
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    There isn't a press conference scheduled for noon...noon is the deadline the Rockets set to make their decision.

    Old School
     
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    Jeff,

    Wasn't Bryce Drew traded to Chicago for a conditional pick? Those conditions did involve games played and games won or something to that effect.

    -Tariq
     
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    According to the Chron report and Fox, the NBA does not allow picks based on games played, etc.
     
  11. Achebe

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    tariq, that was a draft pick inversely coorelated w/ Chicago's performance, not Drew's performance or attendance.
     
  12. Mango

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    Achebe,

    True.

    If it was based on some criteria based of what the the traded player did:

    1) Games played
    2) FG %
    3) PPG
    4) Time on IR
    etc

    the team could be accused of manipulating things so they could gather the conditional pick. Then it would go to an arb for a decision ...blah, blah.



    Mango
     
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    Man, I wish the new CBA was in effect in 1995. As part of the Clyde Drexler trade, the Rockets were to give Portland a conditional draft pick IF they made the NBA Finals. Well, obviously, they did.

    That pick turned out to be Theo Ratliff.

    Just something to think about. ;)
     

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