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Chinese Soldiers Killing Tibetan Pilgrims

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Supermac34, Oct 16, 2006.

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  1. jo mama

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    sadly actions like this are pretty consistent with the brutality of the chinese government towards tibet.

    but we are talking about a country where they harvest prisoners organs (sometimes while they are still alive) and sell them.

    thousands of public exections a year, for sometimes minor offenses.

    its very sad.
     
  2. hooroo

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    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/ti...er-guards-claim/2006/10/13/1160246329628.html

    Are you serious?
     
  3. Pipe

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    Self defense? The video appears to prove otherwise.
     
  4. Uprising

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    No doubt. It's just aweful. Those soldiers shooting should be arrested and charged for the murders. But like that will ever happen..... :eek:
     
  5. Uprising

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    I thought there are ongoing investigation on US soldiers raping Iraqi's and killing them afterwards.

    One, I cannot tell the reliability of the report. The video clip is kinda of vague and there is no way to tell if it is real or staged.

    Secondly, even if it is real, how can one tell it is not a rouge soldier.
     
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  7. Uprising

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    And those soldiers are being punished for what they did. Here the communist gov. is trying to say the soldiers did NOTHING wrong.
     
  8. NewYorker

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    Well, I'm sure those pilgrims could hear the Chinese border guards calling them from so far away - I guess the Chinese military thought that shooting them was a good way to get their attention.

    Why did the Chinese border guards round up children and chain them up? I guess that's standard opperating procedures for genocide.

    Why can't you just decry what your country has done?

    We are upset about Iraq - many Americans can say it was wrong to go in there.

    Now can you do the same thing? Looks like you can't...instead, you find excuses.

    Excuses.

    China can do no wrong. They are saints. Above flaw. If something happens, surely there must be an explanation.

    DENIAL
     
  9. michecon

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    Sure.
     
  10. canoner2002

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    But where is the evidence that the border guards were not attacked first?

    I thought NewYorker would never accuse anyone without slam dunk evidence.

    Is it possible that this was a human smuggling case? How can you prove it is not? I mean, it is not unheard of in that part of China.
     
  11. NewYorker

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    The actions by these soliders are pathetic and sick. I can't understand why you continue to defend them and search for excuses. You're like the Muslims who denied that Muslims were behind 9/11. It's so odd how you can't admit fault with your own culture. That's the reason I come after you. I just want to see if you're man enough to admit China isn't perfect and what they are doing in Tibet is wrong.

    Instead, you try to get off the main issue. It's not going to work. Keep defending your genocidal soldiers. It's rather disturbing your loyalty to a regime that can so brutally gun down innocent civilians.

    Why can't you even entertain the possibility that China is doing wrong in Tibet?
     
  12. michecon

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    You read it all wrong, as ususal. There's nothing like you said in my post.
    Go to mitbbs.com, find a translation software, and find out what "we" really think.
     
  13. NewYorker

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    My god - how crazy is this?

    So if the U.S. decides to Nuke the Arab world - and everyone is horrified - we will just say - hey, the U.S. was attacked first. And when they say that is B.S. - we'll just say "Show us the evidence that the U.S. was not attacked first". Of course no one can manufacture that evidence...

    That's how absurd your argument is.

    Do you really think those pilgrims attacked the Chinese military????
     
  14. supafrumpy

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    I think that you need a little perspective on "truly horrific" and genocide (I'm not denying that China has committed some wrongs against tibet) and in no particular order.

    Rape of Nanking: 300,000 Deaths, Rapes (of girls as young as infants) and generally the Japanese occupation of China and Japan

    Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-1933: 7,000,000 dead

    Armenians in Turkey: 1,500,000

    The Holocaust- 6,000,0000

    Bosnia-Herzegovina: 1992-1995 - 200,000 Deaths

    Rwanda: 1994 - 800,000 Deaths

    Pol Pot in Cambodia: 1975-1979 - 2,000,000 Deaths

    Mass Rapes, Genocide in Congo Civil War: 1996-present

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    I hope this puts things in perspective for you. While terrible, what is happening in tibet is nothing. From where I am standing it looks as though you are either downplaying the events I have listed, or you are seriously overstating the facts by saying that the Sino-tibetitan conflicts as "one of the truly horrific things in our modern world
    It's genocide."
     
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    Are you incapable of telling us what you really think? We're listening.

    Tell us that these evil pilgrims deserved to be shot. You seem to know all the facts....
     
  16. hooroo

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    i was being sarcastic.
     
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    I see, so because more people have been slaughtered in other places, it's ok to slaughter Tibetians and wipe out their culture. Thanks for explaining your position.
     
  18. michecon

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    I've said what I said.
     
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    First, those "pilgrims" could've been human smugglers and their "goods". If you don't know human trafficing is not rare in that region, then you should research a bit first.

    The chance is it could've been a self-defense, or a crime. We don't know. There is no evidence that prove one way or the other. I don't rule out anything but I see more than one possibilities.

    I just found you quite a hypocrite. If you could believe that 3 smart bombs droped by F117 on Chinese embassy was an accident, why cannot you humor the possibility that this was a self-defense case?
     
  20. canoner2002

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    I think people have problem with your inconsistent standard.
     

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