HPD attacks band Two Gallants at Walters during middle of show

I didn't want to say this last night because there weren't enough responses in this thread yet but I could see where it was going.

I just have to wonder what the reaction would be if this was a black band at a black club with black kids.

I'm amazed at some of the responses that totally exempt the band and crowd.

 

Watch the first video and tell me if the guy that got slammed didn't first of all, try to fight off the cop, and second once he got up try to front the cop.

 

Uh, Two Gallants ARE a quiet two-peice Americana band, which just makes this all the more ridiculous.

No one in the bands or in the crowd did anything wrong. The cop was over-aggressive and played Rambo instead of calmly handling the matter with the soundguy and management. You approach the soundguy and explain the situation and have him cut the sound. You don't ambush the band on stage, because they'll have no idea what is going on. And you certainly don't tackle the band and taser them just because they're confused as to why an agressive cop is suddenly on stage barking commands at them.

 

There was no situation to get under control until f^ckin Tackleberry decided to go commando on people.
As for the crowd, I think most of them were just panicking and trying to pull the cop of the guy. Pretty stupid yes. Some of them were trying to calmly work things out but by that time the cop wasn't having any of that. Not sure if was planning on having any of that from the very beginning though.

 

The first thing I see in the 1st video was the cop slamming the guy down. I didn't see any of what you're talking about. And if I got slammed down by a cop for doing nothing, getting back up and all pissed off would be exactly how I would react.

 

I totally get that the cop was probably too high on his ego. An older cop would have known better.

However, look at the video and listen. There's 1 guy trying to keep the peace. 1 guy. The other band member was repeating "don't get in my face!" And if you look at that dude's face, he was totally in fight mode. And then they were screaming "get his badge number!"

The cop was totally scared and caught off guard. He made his own bed for being dumb and overagressive.

But Only 1 Dude was being cool. 1 Guy. Everyone else was grabbing at the cop, and trying to front him or even fight him. That one guy deserves praise.

This is about general respect to authority. You don't have to be an ass kisser. But people everyone needs to check their ego. Not all cops are asses, but some are, and even though you have the "right" to be an ass back, why go that route?

Show some class, even if others aren't showing it to you.

 

You can't see what he did first of all so I'm not even sure why you bring that up with the video. Second, like I said before he's trying to calm the situation down and keep the other guys in the band back. If you want to say the other guys were trying to fight the cop it might be believable, but the guy in the glasses is clearly trying to diffuse the situation. You're obviously seeing what you want to see.

 

Didn't know that, and that definitely makes it all the more ridiculous.

Pam needs to soundproof the hell out of that place if she is going to keep it in it's present location....or move it across the street to MaryJane's old space, which is bigger, soundproofed, and only has a liquor store next door.

 

You don't mention the other people who are just yelling 'stop' and 'why is he doing that?' However, I'll agree that there were dumb people in the crowd. However, I likely would have been pissed at witnessing police brutality (maybe too strong a word) and yelling too.
Who is more at fault? A cop that is trained to handle situations like this properly or a crowd reacting to a cop who is obviously not doing what he is supposed to.

 

sounds like the police officer body slammed him really hard

 

Hey, I'm with you that the cop should have known better. He could have handled it much better.

But I don't want to undersell people's general responsibility. A lot of the crowd was fine. Some in the crowd were stupid. 1 Guy involved was great. 1 other guy involved was really stupid (the guy who was trying to fight, honestly, just look at his face and add to that the fact that his friend was holding back from the cop).

So I agree that the cop is at fault, but I'm just saying, they cop didn't stroll out there to pick a fight. He was told to go there because there was a noise violation. People are forgetting that these guys were breaking the law and they were disturbing their neighbors at night. If the cop didn't stop the noise, then he wouldn't be serving his job.

The cop treated these people like thugs and so many in turn acted like thugs. Hmmm, maybe there's something to be said about treating thugs like thugs? I dunno...not trying to start anything. Just be thankful that even though the cop was dumb and caught off guard, he honestly looked frazzled, and he was smart enough that even though people were grabbing at him and he was outnumbered, he didn't pull out his pistol and start firing. In other situations, people have been shot for a lot less. Dude, I was almost gunned down by 5 cops and SWAT (swear to God), but fortunately I wasn't keepin it real tryin to mouth off or anything and stayed calm and scared and chill until they realized it was a case of mistaken identity.

 

What kind of ****head knowingly moves next door to a nightclub then starts making noise complaints? It's like moving into a submarine and then complaining that it's wet outside.

Sounds to me like someone's looking to increase their property value, and using the cops to do it.

Now, if the person making the complaint was there before the club, that's a different story.

 

I've seen a lot of very loud shows at Walters, and it's just a tiny little box. Of course the dumbasses moving into their cookie-cutter lofts from the suburbs didn't bother to check into the fact that they're living a block away from a nightclub before moving in. "Wow, what a great price!!"

Cops always love to jump up on stage and get on the mic to stop shows. They loooove to get on that stage. Never seen one bodyslam a guitarist before, but hey, this IS HPD that we're talking about. Duder was lucky he wasn't shot 10 or 12 times... in the back.

 

Figures. Yuppies. They've been poisoning Montrose/Museum District for awhile now as far as I can tell. When I lived in Montrose, seemed like an old house was being torn down every week to make 'lofts' - pretty soon all the artists and musicians and weirdos and college students (without wealthy parents) are going to have to move to the suburbs.

BTW - that cop is a ****ing idiot. He walks into a club full of people, gets on stage, and bodyslams one of the band - then he gets to feeling all threatened and tasers some people.

Idiot.

 

I wonder if this had been an Asian band, would they have submitted to police authority?

 

Um... what?

 

If this was a Christian rock band, would they have joined the cop and started tasering their audience?

BTW - almost every noise complaint I've seen registered with a club usually involves the police talking to the owner of the club, telling him/her to turn it down, and/or issuing a citation.

Getting on stage and tackling a member of the band seems like, at best, slapstick humor, and, at worst, pure power-drunk douchebaggery - but either way, it's not common procedure.

 

The band I saw on Saturday night would not have stood for this kind of thing. There would have been an all out riot. They would have gone Hokie Pokie on that cop's AZZ!!!!!

 

Well, God forbid the cop left the club alone and maybe checked to see if the cars parked all around the block were being broken into. There is zero parking at Walters and the fiends aren't scared to jack a stereo and CD book or twenty.

 

people have been shot for far, far less by HPD. Consider your tasered ass lucky and stop whining