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SF Minutes

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Joe Joe, Oct 3, 2006.

  1. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    How do you see the SF minutes being divided?

    In reasonably contested games early I expect:
    McGrady 35
    Bonzi/Snyder 9
    Battier 4

    As a recurring Juwan Hater, I hope Juwan doesn't play more than 10 minutes at PF. I had been hoping to Rockets would get another backup center, but it looks like Juwan is the man there at this point.

    Bonzi and Snyder are the two SGs most likely to shift to SF. I expect Head to get some SG minutes which will cause one these guys' minutes to spill over into SF. Bonzi has more experience at SF than Snyder, has a better inside game, and will most likely be in anytime McGrady isn't. I just don't know if JVG will prefers Bonzi at the SG more when Snyder and Bonzi are in together.

    I don't expect to see Novak or Jacobson in many close games. This may change later in the season if either one proves in practice that they deserve PT.
     
  2. smoothie

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    i think tmac gets 36MPG there. shane will maybe get the other 12.

    the reason being that shane's 12 MPG at SF would allow more time for joward at PF. i see the PF minutes being split 24-24 between shane and jho.

    but then again who knows?
     
  3. Desert Scar

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    I think McGrady at 35 is about right. But I think Battier is the primary back-up (SB minutes like 20 at PF and 13 at SF). Bonzi and Snyder or Head will play the bulk of the SG minutes.

    Really there will be a lot of fluidity among SB, Tmac, Bonzi or Snyder in their defensive and offensive roles. Bonzi can guard SGs but offensively be in a floor poosition like a PF. Visa versa for SB. Tmac can take the weakest opponent in the 2, 3, or 4 in lineups like this.

    CJ still has to make the team. He or Novak won't get meaningfull minutes unless the other swingmen (Bonzi, Snyder) are really laying bricks and/or disrupting chemistry.
     
  4. forchette49

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    Ummm, Novak anyone?
     
  5. Desert Scar

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    Joe Joe prefaced the game as "reasonably contested". Very unlikely a 2nd round pick and 1 dimesional rook will get minutes in that situation. Maybe in an offensive set piece when we need a 3 to tie, maybe not even then.
     
  6. smoothie

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    with tmac, bonzi, snyder, head, and shane all playing the 2/3 i don't think there's any more PT.

    for example:

    shane (24) - howard (24)
    tmac (36) - shane (6) - snyder (6)
    bonzi (30) - snyder (12) - head (6)

    a rotation like this (not even playing bonzi at the 3) would dish out minutes like this:

    tmac = 36mpg
    bonzi = 30
    shane = 30
    jho = 24
    snyder = 18
    head = 6

    besides tmac and juwon i think everyone here deserves more PT. where do you fit novak in?
     
  7. Desert Scar

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    I agree Novak won't play. In fact I think CS or SP will be next in line if either one makes the team.

    I'd like to think we have good enough swingmen so that TM's minutes can be lower (say 34).

    Bonzi's career average is 26. That sounds about right to me. When he is in there he can do his thing, but when not a central part of the offense have a shooter in instead.

    I think SB's will probably be a little higher, say 32-34.

    Overall SF minutes are the most competitive on the whole roster.

    SG minutes will be interesting too. I suspect Head or Snyder, whomever plays better, will gobble the other guys minutes and the other guy won't be happy. Head could go for the PG minutes though, I think that is his best shot for high minutes.
     
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    It's good to be good.

    I really like this team.
     
  9. Desert Scar

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    Me too. I think Yao, Tmac and SB's minutes (low to mid 30s for all) and starting jobs are fairly set throughout the season. But the rest is largely up for grabs. While Alston and Bonzi or Howard will defintely start early in the season, there will be a heck of fight for the final 2 starting positions over the course of the season and for all the minutes at PG, back-up SG and back-up PF. Lots of hungry younger guys to make our more flawed vets (Bonzi, Howard, Alston) have to play very well to keep their minutes high. I am completely happy with the roster at this point and just want to see how they play together.
     
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    Snyder gets no love here. I think he has a decent shot at starting day 1 as he may fit better with Alston than Bonzi. The Rockets immediately got him after the Mike James deal fell apart and probably were trying to get him even before then.

    If Snyder starts or plays major minutes (20+), Bonzi has no where to go but the SF or bench. This will cause Shane to play more PF and Howard to play more center. I'm expecting Snyder plays about 20 minutes and Bonzi around 32. While Bonzi's career numbers are about 27 minutes, he played for a Memphis team that had a lot of SGs/SFs/ and powerless PFs.
     
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    Tracy may also see some SG minutes and maybe depending on the match-up maybe Mavs.. could also see some PF minutes
     
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    I want to know - can Battier really play at the 4? Otherwise I see JHo getting alot of mins, if he still has his nice little 20 ft jumper, and you know he'll get plenty of space if yao, tmac and bonzi are on the floor.

    With the glut of players at the 3, I would like TMac to spend some time at PG? Imagine the potential mismatches, with guys like Boykins and Ridnour trying to guard him...
     
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    Does someone think Tmac goona play SG position about 10~15min? If Battier play such few mins outside, it would waste his value as a good outside defender. :confused:
     
  14. Desert Scar

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    Snyder is so unpredictable. You are right he could start--he could be a little of Wells and Head all rolled into one and make an excellent SG in our system, but he could also get in the dog house and never be seen again. Just have to wait and see about him, he was given to us for cash after all. However Mad Max worked out for us in a similar situation until the post Drexler trade self-implosion, so you never know, but I am not counting on major contributions until we see it.
     

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