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USA Team Roster?

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by thesaint, Sep 25, 2006.

  1. thesaint

    thesaint Member

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    I dont know if a thread like this is already posted, if so yall can delete it.

    Just want to know what would be your choice of players for USA team to succeed in the world championship. It seemed that in recent years USA team lacked team chemistry since USA team is filled with superstars. This would be my choice for USA team:

    Shaq
    Amare
    Marion
    Kobe
    Kidd

    Bench:
    Ben Wallace
    Duncan
    Tmac
    Artest
    C. Paul

    Reserve:
    Rashard Lewis
    Baron Davis

    This roster is mix of Veterans and young players that knows how to build chemistry. Also not everyone in the team is a superstar. Addition of Marion, Wallace, Artest and Paul helps the team chemistry and help other superstars play their game.

    I think this year the team was just too young and too many sueprstars of LJ, Wade, Anthony, D. Howard etc. created chemistry problems and lack of leadership.

    What would be your roster and why?
     
  2. A-Train

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    It wouldn't be that lineup, that's for sure...
     
  3. KeepKenny

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    So you think they failed because they had too many superstars, then suggest a lineup with even more superstars than the actual team?

    Our current team couldn't hit a 3, and that basically resulted in them losing. Your team is even worse from the perimeter.

    They would get crushed by a zone defense.

    -Shaq would be less effective because of the trapezoid, and Fiba refs will surely call offensive fouls on his slow, predictable power moves. Camby might be a better fit because of his shotblocking and rebounding, as well as his ability to drain the J (at least against Yao)

    -Amare has basically proven that his game is not one that translates to international play. When he was on the floor in Athens, he was not much of a factor at all. Give me Garnett instead.

    -Marion is pretty redundant with Amare and Shaq. Just another athletic guy who wants to score at the rim, but won't be able to because of the zone. Would rather have a shooter here. Ray Allen, for instance.

    -I'm fine with Kidd, because he can most likely hit the short 3 with consistency, and of course run the show.

    -Kobe is a no-brainer.

    -Wallace is too much of a liability on offense. international ball is all about movement and passing. The Pistons can isolate away from him and be successful, but he would hurt the US team offensively, thereby cancelling out his D. Dwight Howard did a fine job filling the role that Wallace would fill. At this stage, Howard is a better rebounder and much better scorer.

    -Duncan is a no brainer, but he has realized that international ball is a waste of his time. I personally don't blame him after the travesty in athens.

    -I'd keep Artest but get rid of Marion, because they are somewhat redundant.

    -Paul, I have mixed feelings about. He's not a consistent shooter, and his game is drive and dish. I don't think he translates as well playing against a zone. Give me a guy like Bibby, who you know can make the passes, drive, AND drain the 3.

    -Lewis fits the bill in terms of shooting, but I'd rather have Joe Johnson.

    -Baron Davis is probably the last guy I'd pick for international play. He's inefficient. You can't have inefficient guys jacking up shots when he's playing with such talented teammates.

    In conclusion, you managed to construct a pretty mediocre team despite the fact that you could have chosen anyone. I do agree that the Wade, Melo, LBJ combo is not ideal, but then again, they are the guys who want to go.

    here's my ideal roster:
    Kidd/Bibby
    Kobe/Tmac
    Allen/ JJ
    Duncan/KG
    Camby/Howard

    fill in the other two slots with whoever you want, it doesn't really matter. Artest for defense, and Hinrich to represent, uh, Kansas. Yes, this team is basically all superstars, but their games complement each other, and they are unselfish. That's all you really need.
     
  4. francis 4 prez

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    while i would like them to add another shooter or two, the team shot 36% on 3's, which was 6th out of 24 teams. and none of the 5 teams that shot better did particularly well (greece, spain, and argentina were tied with or below us). offense was definitely not the reason we lost when we scored the most, assisted the most, shot 6th in 3's and had one of the better 2 pt percentages.

    granted, our 3's are probably more open on average than other countries (by virtue of doubling guys like lebron, wade, and carmelo) but it's not so much to account for us finishing 6th while not being able to shoot. this wasn't the 2004 team.
     
  5. TeamUSA

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    easy..

    just make room for Kobe and the Allens ( AI and Ray ). We really need shooters.
     
  6. mike_hk

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    Starting 5:
    D. Howard
    TD
    C. Anthony
    K. Bryant
    J. Kidd

    (I would prefer a pair of 2 guards with better defence and height advance.)

    Bench:
    KG
    L. James
    C. Billups
    R. Allen
    R. Artest


    You can pick any other two players to go with these players. C. Anthony could lose his starting position to Artest or Allen if he doesn't perform like he did in Japan this year. I personally don't like Wade that much because he always has a lot of turnovers. Yet, he would still be in the team coz not many quality players wanna play.

    I pick Billups over C. Paul basically bcoz Billups is a more consistent perimeter shooter. R. Artest would add toughness and D to this team.

    I think u might wanna bring 1-2 more big guys to team USA. However, right at this pt, I can't think of anyone who is willing to play. So TD and even KG have to play at the centre sometimes.
     
  7. KeepKenny

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    Yes, the team was pretty good offensively, but in a single elimination tournament, it's obviously about consistency. We constructed a team of inconsistent 3 point shooters, and we eventually paid for it. You think us shooting 25% on wide open, 20 foot threes wasn't a key reason why we lost to Greece? Meanwhile, they pick and roll us to death with all these no name power forwards draining every 3 they take.

    with our abundance of athletic penetrators, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't lead the entire tournament in shooting. 36% from 3 might be fine for those european teams with sophisticated offenses and good chemistry (not to mention very solid zone defenses), but the US should and needs to shoot better than that. We obviously can't build sufficient chemistry in a short period of time, so the easiest solution is to shoot them out of the building. Lebron, Wade, and Melo should never be on the floor at the same time.
     
  8. timwalters

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    i like this chemistry

    pg- kidd,head
    sg- kobe,snyder
    sf-tmac,novak
    pf-battier,brand
    c-garnett,dwight howard
     
  9. A-Train

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    Head, Novak, McGrady, AND Battier?

    What, no Ryan Bowen? ;)
     
  10. Shroopy2

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    Head on the U.S. Team. That would for sure be a dream team, as in Keep Dreaming Team.

    Chemistry would help out most on their defense. The game against Greece, with coaching also at fault, they hardly made ANY adjustments to their pick and roll. Playing together more with the right mix, that'd help out on rotations and communications a bit better.

    I agree with having great players and veterans mixed in the roster. If the vets would chose to play that is... :mad: Jason Kidd is instant solid veteran and floor commander. I like Chris Paul and he played well but for some reason couldnt put too much faith in him against a bunch of grown men who've had years experience on their teams. Garnett, absolutely. I'd love to see Tmac back in action for the U.S. team. Keep Lebron of course but I see Tmac as the better player in the international ball...
     
  11. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    i would take

    howard-amare-bosh
    marion-brand-KG
    lebron-melo-artest
    kobe-wade-johnson
    paul-billups-bibby


    if i were in charge however, i would ask a real nba team to go since the USA's biggest problem is chemistry.

    this summer i would've sent the heat.
     
  12. A-Train

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    Why are people ready to re-assemble the US team? The whole point of the current team selection process was to get the same players to play together for a significant amount of time in order to DEVELOP some chemistry. If you rearrange the roster, you're starting from square one...
     
  13. Like A Breath

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    Seconded. The team only lost ONCE and people are ready to blow the whole team up. Almost all the guys playing aren't even close to their primes yet!
     
  14. Sextuple Double

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    PG - Arenas, Paul
    SG - Kobe, Redd, Redick
    SF - Artest, Prince, Korver
    PF - Stoudemire, Novak
    C - D. Howard, Camby

    I dare anyone to zone this line-up. We got far better shooters in with Arenas, Redd, Redick, Prince, and Korver. And throw in Novak to stretch the D further.

    Not only that, but this line-up also plays D. Not just trying to jump in the passing lanes. I hated Team USA D. Only Hinrich used to stay in front his man, everyone else i jumping at every pass, which is easy points if we don't get a hand on it. This is about the perimeter players. Only Hinrich used to play D. Lebron, Wade, Melo; none of them ever play D. They're weakside helpers and gamblers, that is not D. The big guys used to rebound and contest shots if they can. But the other teams, even those we beat, had far better ball movement and off-ball screens.

    Camby and Howard will dominate the glass, and Stoudemire can bring his sharpie along to sign some posters and make these dudes afraid to be under the basket.
     

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