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Point of Bush's Speech at the UN?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. canoner2002

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    You talk like terrorists, you act like terrorists, then you are no different than terrorists.

    BTW, Irqi was has NOTHING to do with war on terror. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER!

    If a stray dog bit you, you will become a dog and bite everyone in sight. That is your logic, right?

    There are always brainwashed people like you and your friends. I am all for sending you guys to wars! Wars will do you good.
     
  2. Aceshigh7

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    Oh really? I'd love to have you spend some time walking the streets over there.

    If ''Irqi'' as you call it has ''absolutely nothing whatsoever'' to do with the war on terror, you should be perfectly safe there correct?

    There's nothing to fear from the dozens of daily bomb attacks, mass execution style graves continuously found, iraqi & foreign civilians alike kidnapped and killed, etc....

    You are a fool.
     
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  3. canoner2002

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    That happened ONLY after Bush invaded Iraq. Even the congressional report claims that there was NO tie between Saddam and OBL.

    BUSH MADE IRAQ A TERRORISM COUNTRY

    You are the fool. I'd love to see you sent to Iraq. The world will do well without guys like you.
     
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  4. rodrick_98

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    ill reply with a response to the bush speech later... when i'm sober.

    but, for now,

    does anyone else think of the tourtue scene in princess bride when they hear the word waterboarding?
     
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  5. FranchiseBlade

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    If Al-Qaeda and terrorism is there now, then it marks a failure of Bush's strategy in the war on terror.

    Prior to Bush's invasion, the streets were not full of terrorists, there weren't daily bombings. The fact that there are all of those things now would only go to show how Bush's strategy has failed.

    Maybe you should think before you call others "fool"
     
  6. Sishir Chang

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    Back on topic. These speeches are almost always for domestic consumption and rarely for a world audience. That's why leaders will often speak in their country's primary language when addressing the UN even if they know a more widely used language like English or French.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    I'm always amazed at the capacity for cruelty
    esp when you don't have to do it ourself
    and
    you have never been in harms way in such a manner
    [See Pres Bush ]

    It is easy [as stated in DaDa's thread about Osama]
    to condone torture and war
    when you sit comfortable thousands miles away
    it is abstract . . it is not 'real'

    But could Bush torture someone . ..with his own hands?
    I don't think he could.

    Rocket River
     
  8. Aceshigh7

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    I think you need to take a hard long look at pre-war Iraq. There are some videos on the net that might open your eyes. Saddam's regime was little better than the Taliban and used some of the exact same tactics the terrorists in Iraq today use. Iraq was a terrorist laden country before and after the U.S invasion. The only difference is that before all the victims of terrorism in Iraq were Iraqi or Arab. Now many of the victims are westerners.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    ....wrong.
     
  10. Zboy

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    Hilarious!!!!!!! :D :D :D

    Did you seriously type all that with a straight face?
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    point us to your videos.. are they real documentaries or merely dramatizations or docudramas?
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Almost everything you have written here is wrong. Saddam didn't use hardly any of the same tactics as Al Qaeda. Women were lawyers, doctors, went to Universities were in the govt. Christians were part of Saddam's own cabinet.

    The taliban was an extremist govt. that used their harline view of their religion to rule, oppress women, and people's freedoms.

    The biggest difference is that the Taliban allowed Al Qaeda to use its territory as a base of operations. Iraq, on the other hand, were enemies of Al Qaeda and did not allow extremist terrorists in Iraq, and kept them out with the same brutality he used to rule over all his opponents.

    Saddam did crush dissent with brutality, and tolerated none of it. He tortured, and slaughtered potential enemies, and was a cruel dictator. But he didn't have terrorists operating out of Iraq, and was an enemy of Al Qaeda.

    Saddam was killing fewer Iraqis then than are being killed currently.

    You were also wrong about the westerners. Right now far more IRaqis are dying than westerners.
     
  13. RocketMan Tex

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    I searched for it on FOX's website and came up with bupkus.
     
  14. rimrocker

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    Speaking of Pearl, The Waziristan Accord, signed between Al-Q/Taliban and Pakistan called for the release of prisoners by Pakistan. Those released included the killers of Pearl.

    The administration's response...

     
  15. Dreamshake

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    Care to explain who exactly you have shown your "care" for the troops other than to speak of "supporting the troops" or maybe putting a ribbon on your vehicle. As a Vet Im interested to hear of the hospitals you've visited, VFW meetings you've attended, or bills that you supported to help veterans in the last few years.
     
  16. Dreamshake

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    I guess using your brilliant line of thinking when our troops make mistakes by killing civilians in cold blood, or torture in Abu Ghirab and in Syria, as allowed by Mr Bush, kidnapped innocent civilians (see the canadian newspapers) and the ten thousand dead Iraqi civilians makes the US a terrorist nation also.

    Whats good for the goose?
     
  17. vlaurelio

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    pro war: wants to continue an illiegal war and have troops fight a illegal war for them and thinks troops being in iraq distracts the terrorists from coming here

    anti war: wants illegal war to stop, send troops back home to their families, and concerntrated spending money, resources, and manpower on actually defending the homeland

    who reallly cares for the troops?
     
  18. vlaurelio

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    what does this have to do with america? fool!
     
  19. canoner2002

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    Wrong, wrong, and wrong. There is little in your post that is even remotely correct.
     
  20. Saint Louis

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    Cocaine is a helluva drug.
     

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