I think some people are misunderstanding hate with fear. Countries have always feared us. We have the ability to wipe away the world, and we won the Cold War against the other country that can. Bush has only validated the fears of an unchecked superpower. The hate is understandable. We've damaged our credibility in the eyes of the world. It doesn't mean Americans should just cast out any chances to regain that trust and respect exemplified by the Bush 1 and Clinton administration. Hopefully, the next president will lay the groundwork to rebuild what Dubya purposely tore down and is only now realizing its importance.
The US has a long history of causing problems in Latin America - both covertly and overtly so it is understandable that Chavez can say what he says. Chavez, however, needs to look in the mirror because he has not shown that he truly is a man of the people. He is heading towards the same dictator land that has haunted much of LA ever since colonialism fell apart.
Wow, I am surprised by the general reaction from the ppl here on bbs about this. In any other country no matter how unpopular their leader might be, people would have been pretty pissed when another country's president called their president the devil. Can't underestimated the hatred for Bush around here. This is like letting your neighbor (the one who hates you) to hold a block party on your front lawn and spread rumors about how much of a bad dude you are. While you are paying for their refreshments.
LOL, what do you expect people to do, start burning down the Venezuelan embassy? Chavez is a clown who pulls stunts like this to get attention. You're mad because people aren't giving it to him?
If someone would make fun of our current minister president or say he does a bad job, i would not mind in fact i would agree, and he is doing a much better job then Bush has been doing in the last couple of years. So i understand the reaction of te board.
Neah, I am just a little suprised quite a few ppl here actually seems side with Chavez just because he is anti-Bush.
I'm agnostic, so calling someone, "the devil," seems pretty nonsensical to me. I agree with Rimmy, a few posts earlier, that we have a long history of sticking our noses into Latin American countries, in all sorts of ways, many of them unpleasant. I don't like Chavez, and he appears to be well on his way to traditional Latin demagogue, so I wouldn't make assumptions. And I think Bush deserves a huge amount of criticism he's not getting here in America, in the mainstream media, and I think it's incredible that a third of the country seems to believe anything the man says, and that anything the man does is just groovy. That is very disturbing to me, so I don't give a damn what Chavez said about him. It was stupid, politically, for Chavez to do it, but big deal. Keep D&D Civil.
I don't think anyone is "siding with Chavez", but that doesn't stop them agreeing with some of his points, for instance that Bush talked as if he owns the world. You can agree or disagree with someone on something without siding with him. If Hitler has said the Sun rises from the East, you could have certainly agreed with him without being labeled as siding with him.
so when bush calls saddam evil iraqi's should have stood up for saddam no matter how hated he is? you can't see the bad things he has done to this country and the world.. rumors? is it a rumor that bush did nothing to stop the bombing of lebanon? is it a rumor that we're in iraq even though it had nothing to do with terror and wmds? what are you talking about? is the UN owned by the US?
Why has everyone gone so soft on confronting terrorism? Everyone was on board Septmeber 12th, 2001, right? Agree or disagree on the reasons for going into Iraq you still have to admit that this created a front that diverted attention away from the continental US. I'm glad we're fighting them THERE instead of here. And regardless of the reasons given by the administration, ousting Hussein was a good thing. I dare you to disagree on that!! Look, Bush's term will run it's course soon. The real problem we face is will America stay the coarse and take on terrorism and the countries that enable it? Some of you guys sound like you don't have the stomache for it. And since we are in Iraq for reasons right or wrong we have a debt to their people and must help secure their country to give their government a chance to govern in the interests of all Iraqi's. That also means we have to confront the sources of interference. If you do not have the will for this then, whether you admit it or not, you have given in to these radical people that have stated many times that Americans are infedels and all must die. If you're OK with this, then fine. Crawl back into you're hole and assume the fetal position. I, for one, choose to look ahead. I know America will be disliked by many for our actions. But in the long run we are trying to give people more freedom while making our own country safer.
I disagree.. I'm not glad 3000 US servicemen dead in Iraq and tens of thousands of iraqis dead unlike you.. are you saying the money and troops send to iraq can't be used to stop terrorism here? coarse? you talking about salt? does Iraq enable terrorism? are you from the US? talk is cheap.. why don't you enlist
Are comparing what Saddam did to his own people and Bush is doing to Americans? How is related to the topic at hand. So Bush is "the Devil" then? WTF are you talking about, where did I say UN is owned by US, but UN is residing on a piece of land that was part of United States, and US continues to provide major funding for it.
Bush secretly tried to overthrow Chavez three years ago with teams of guerillas. It failed. So of course Chavez hates Bush. Also, not reported in American papers: Chavez got one of the longest standing ovations in United Nations history. He is not alone in his views of our current leader.
I am sure we will continue to fight terrorism. I just hope we don't do it by staying the course, since the course we are on in that fight sucks and is failing.
Cause by going into a country like Iraq without any established reason we have created more enemy’s…the London bombings were because of the Iraq situation. LOL. You are glad you are fighting them there? The U.S has created a war zone in another country where there were no terrorists(in terms of those that wanted to harm America [alquieda]). There are a lot of countries with leaders like Hussain…why Iraq? Personally I don’t understand why the U.S went into Iraq…most of the world does not get it either…what was Bush trying to accomplish? Is the U.S’s role to solve the problems of the world? Should democracy be pushed onto people? Some battles are just not meant to be fought.
you said regardless of how unpopular a leader is, his citizens should defend him.. we can agree saddam was unpopular right? are you that naive? do you really think Chavez thinks that Bush has a tail and horns? its what you call a figure of speech.. he thinks Bush has done evil things.. so because of that no country can say anything bad about the US even though it makes sense because the US is the biggest sponsor of the UN?
I am not willing to sacrifice 230 years of hard-fought freedoms and liberties that have literally changed the course of human history because 19 pissants got lucky five years ago. I am not willing to trade freedom for oppression disguised as protection. We're Americans, dammit. We don't give up our liberty because some rich boy tells us to, or because some religious nutjob wants us to. We're stronger and more resiliient than these historical blips. Americans brag about how great our country is, but we sure are quick to hand over what makes us so great. We have betrayed and belittled what has made the United States of America the greatest country in world history. And it's time to reverse course. Our freedoms are more important than some mythical war on so-called terrorism. If not, we allow ourselves to become what we have hated.
