the ref himself announced that the ball clearly was not tipped. that means the booth ref relayed the "indisputable" evidence. otherwise, he should have announced the opposite, which is there is no conclusive evidence the ball was tipped. i'm with Angle. i'm not a fan of either team. i just think it's their way of covering up a **** up.
Umm, how the hell do you know? Unless you were in the booth, or a member of their technical crew, how do you know if their systesm were functioning properly. You have absolutely zero grounds to make that assumption, other than the fact that you're obviously saying this in order to defend the sooners.
It's highly possible for them to have it on both, or one and not the other. The first time I loaded this page it didn't work. Then I hit refresh, and voila....must be a conspiracy against OU, right?
look, i'm not a Sooner fan. i just think there is a possibility that the refs just screwed up and all this talk about equipment malfunction could be a spin to cover their asses. i can also accept that i could be wrong about that. can you?
I'm not a Sooner fan by any stretch of the imagination- in fact I root against them and laugh in their face when they fail. What I am appalled by is the lack of judgment of these PAC-10 officials in refereeing this game. When the validity of any game comes into question it truly jeopardizes the integrity of the sport as a whole. The sad part is that replay was initially commissioned for use to aid referees in their decisions and give them hard, video evidence that either supported or discredited their calls. OU has a legitimate beef, but as fans of the sport, we all have a beef. The new clock rules, countless referee mistakes, player misbehaviors, BCS controversies, and now a replay 'malfunction' have taken away from NCAA football and its something that won't go away.
Stuff like this happens in every sport every year, and fans understand that. The integrity of the sport is not in peril. I would worry more about recruiting violations and criminal behaviour of athletes jeapordizing the integrity of the sport, than bad calls that we come to expect will happen in any given year.
Then whats your grounds for backing them? How do you not know that the system was working correctly? You dont know. You are just taking word from what the Pac 10 is saying. Who do you think the Pac 10 will side on in this situation?
exactly. he doesn't know whether the equipment was working properly or not as much as you and i. i just find it a rather convenient explanation. i'm not even saying the calls that were missed were a "conspiracy" against OU. i'm merely talking about the "reason" they were made...equipment malfunction.
If the equipment is working properly, turn on a television and watch the same replays that everyone else is seeing. Not that hard.
Because the only eyewitnesses to the event said so. Where are your witnesses as to the contrary? Oh yes, you have none. Maybe you will get a transmission on your dental fillings about the conspiracy that will shed light on the subject. If by "convenient" you mean "perfectly logical" then you're right.
Listen to yourself... The only eyewitnesses to the event said that happened. You know who was up in that replay booth? The guy lives in Oregon. Of course he's going to try to protect himself and his crew for the bad calls saying they didn't have enough time to get the replays in, etc etc etc. Your arguement holds nothing as mind does. Macalu and I have the same opinion on the situation as you hold a different one. Who knows who is right and I'm not saying I'm right about the situation. I agree with Macalu about it being a rather convenient explanation. I dont have any witnesses as neither do you. You have a guy trying to protect himself and come up with a reason why he couldn't do his job by making the correct call. What does dental fillings have to do with any of this?
Just because it sounds perfectly logical doesn't mean it holds any truth. For example, when you tell a lie you dont come up with some outragous story no one will believe do you? You come up with something perfectly logical to the situation. To me thats not a good enough excuse. Like Rocketman said "If the equipment isn't working properly, turn on a television and watch the same replays that everyone else is seeing. Not that hard." The pieces dont add up to me. It seems it does for you.
Blah blah blah, you sound like a disgruntled okie peddling silly conspiracy theories . You have no basis for what you're saying at all, and you almost look as silly as their goofy president who's running around asking people to change history. You're fortunate it wasn't you up in the booth when they equipment malfunctioned or else jerks powered by the same logic you're employing would be calling your wife with death threats. Shockingly, life isn't perfect nor is college football, I don't find it hard to believe that things don't always work perfectly, I guess you do.
Sam, You don't find it odd at all that there were no shortage of replays on the ABC broadcast, yet there happened to be one in the replay booth. You don't have a problem with them just shrugging their shoulders and saying "oh well" without trying to find a solution to the problem on the biggest play of the game?
No of course he doesn't. The Pac 10 and the official confirmed all of this so therefore it is right. All Sam wants to do is bash the Sooners and think this is all good. He has no proof that the equipment malfunctioned. He's going by what the official and Pac 10 said. And I'm assuming you live in a world where every excuse makes things all good again.
if there was an equipment malfunction, no I don't find it odd at all. And I don't find it odd that, faced with a malfunction and people waiting, they made a quick, uninformed decision rather than emailing the microsoft help desk. You and I would probably do the same in a similar situation with that kind of pressure. Do you find it odd that replay equipment might not always work perfectly? I don't. The odds are the same of it happening on the biggest play of the game as they are in any other given play. And further, we don't know whether or not it worked properly on the other plays either. Who knows? bwahahaha, that has to be the quote of the century. Oklahoma sooner fans and their mediocre team which dropped a huge lead because of lackluster defense are the unrivalled KINGS of excuses this week.....why blame a defense that surrendered touchdown after touchdown when you can anonymously tell a part-time replay official that you're going to kill him and his family...right?
What else do you have to go on? Conspiracy Theory? Ya...he has no proof that the equipment actually malfunctioned but you also have no proof that it didn't. He is going by what the officials and the Pac 10 said because so far, that is the only explanation we have been given. Could they be lying? Of course they could. But like some other posters have asked...What do you think is more likely? Equipment malfunction or a cover up conspiracy theory against OU? We see equipment malfunctions all the time...shot clocks go out, they don't reset, play clocks don't work, phones don't work in the bullpen, etc...and all this equipment is much less sophisticated than a replay booth that is suppose to contain multiple angles with the ability to stop/rewind/play/slowmo/etc... Like I said, they could be lying or they could be telling the truth. But I wouldn't say someone is just bashing the Sooners because he believes what Pac 10 officials have come out and said.
Exactly. We dont have anything to work on. I'm not believing the excuse and he is. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy theory. I just find it funny that everyone on the call is from Oregon or is part of the Pac 10. Can you not blame Sooner fans for believing some kind of conspiracy though? When the official says that right after he made the call he made a mistake. What does that say? He didn't have any of the replays after he made the call to make him realize he made the wrong choice. After Sooner fans put up with the horrible calls in the Texas Tech game last year of course a lot of them are going to feel the officials are against them. Go back and reread some of my posts Sam. I stated I'm a fan of college football and not a Sooner fan. Also I live in Texas and never lived in Oklahoma. It's easy to come up with excuses though. Every sport is full of them. Doesn't mean every excuse holds any truth. So the Sooners are saying they wont play in Washington next year if the rules about Pac 10 officials dont change. Why would you want to go to someone else's house with their officials doing the game?
