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[Football] Ok. vs. Oregon

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by JunkyardDwg, Sep 16, 2006.

  1. percicles

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    I am amazed at the level of pussitude displayed by the OU contigent. Then again this is the same group that wants the 55-19 Orange Bowl ass whooping stricken from the books.

    You want your W OU? Fine, give UAB a rematch, give back the NC you won while cheating, and give back the Indians the land you stole.
     
  2. rrj_gamz

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    A loss is a loss, but a freakin' death threat...give me a break...

    Crazy
     
  3. Jeff

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    Whoever calls in death threats to officials for blown calls at ANY level is a freaking moron.
     
  4. percicles

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    When did Norman turn into Bogota, Colombia????
     
  5. Rocketman95

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    Absolutely.

    However, based on this official's obvious ineptitude, he's probably mistaking telemarketer calls for death threats.
     
  6. white lightning

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    Like I mentioned before, the official wasn't inept, he only had one angle to review it with and it was a crappy angle.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or....ssf?/base/sports/1158639907304430.xml&coll=7

    Riese, who is paid $400 a game to work the replay booth, said he knew almost immediately that the call was blown. He called it "instinct." He'd looked hard at 10 plays during the game, stopped to analyze five of them, and overturned three of those five on-field calls, getting them right. But it was that terrible onside kick that he replayed in his mind, and agonized over as he drove his brown Toyota van the two hours back to Portland after the game.
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    But first you should know that Riese didn't see the ABC television feed that viewers watched at home, which you, your spouse and your children know showed an Oregon player touching the ball before it traveled the required 10 yards. And you should know that Riese will not talk about specifics on the call, but said: "My supervisor knows what happened up there and that's all that matters."

    A source in the replay booth on Saturday said that Riese found himself crunched for time, pressured by television and the on-field referee for a rapid decision, and there was such a delay in getting the video feed to Riese that he never even got to properly review the play.

    The Pac-10's coordinator of football officiating confirmed that Riese didn't get all of the replays that ABC was providing.

    With all the cameras working the game that one half of the country was watching, Riese saw only a single frame of video, the source said. The angle was bad. But it appeared to show an Oklahoma player touching the ball with his helmet before it hit the Oregon player. (From other angles, clearly, it hits the Ducks player first.) With no other video immediately available, and television waiting, Riese did what he's told to do when he's out of time and has no conclusive evidence.
     
  7. Angle02

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    Oh ok...good. I mean whew! For a minute there I thought this official really gave the game to Oregon. Awesome thing an Oregon based website cleared this up to all the Sooner fans out there. Now they all can go live and rejoice and move on to the next game.

    Please... *cough*cover up*cough*
     
  8. Angle02

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    And for those interested on how the Pac 10 sets up the replays...

    From the PAC-10

    All reviewable video will come direct from the televised production of the game. In the event the game is not being televised on a live or delayed basis, the video will come from the in-house video board production.

    Replay Personnel: Four people will make up the instant replay team - the Replay Official, who will make all decisions regarding replay; the Communicator, who will assist the Replay Official in obtaining the video replays and with communication; the Replay Technician, who will be responsible for operating and maintaining the replay equipment and a Sideline Assistant, who will assist the referee with communicating with the Replay Official. All four individuals will be trained and paid by the Pac-10. The Replay Officials and Communicators will be two-man teams of former officials who will work together throughout the season and will be assigned by Pac-10 Coordinator of Football Officiating, Verle Sorgen. The Replay Technicians and Sideline Assistants will be assigned by each member institution and approved by the Conference office.

    Equipment: The Pac-10 will utilize a TiVo-based system developed by XOS Technology, one of the leading video technology companies in the nation.


    From XOS Technology website:

    The Process:

    Here is how the system works:

    • Two officials sit in the booth and view both the broadcast and their own replay monitors

    • If they see a play with a questionable call, or notice the broadcasters commenting on a replay or an angle that appears to show a bad or questionable call, the booth monitor has the decision to stop the play for review

    • If the play will be reviewed, they hit a button that automatically sends a signal to pagers worn by the five on-field officials and cues up the bookmarks so the play clips are ready for review

    • The two officials in the booth review the play and decide which way the call should go

    • They call down to the on-field officials who announce the decision and resume play


    Why it is better:

    XOS’ solution is better than the other options being used for several reasons:

    • Monitors in the booth can review each play and create bookmarks for each play without disrupting the game. This allows them to decide which plays should be reviewed, and already cue up several angles to expedite the process once it begins

    • Higher grade technology – our proprietary coding technology allows for smoother viewing in real time, slow motion, and reverse

    • This technology is used by over 690 teams and leagues at all levels of pro and college athletics

    • Our two-monitor solution allows for one person to view what the fans are seeing, while the other views additional angles. By having access to ALL of these clips, they can make a more informed decision

    • Use the same remote control/clicker that our coaches use....very simple and efficient

    • Also, we set up a recording device so they can later review the reviewers (watch the clips they watched so they can see how the monitors came to their decision)

    The system is used by the NFL, Big XII and the PAC-10.
     
  9. macalu

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    hard to believe that the one guy responsible for making sure calls are right has ONLY 1 angle.
     
  10. macalu

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    whatever makes Oregon sleep at night.
     
  11. white lightning

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    Nobody in Oregon is doubting that it was a bad call. The one line you pulled from an article was to illustrate that it was a bad replay angle, not a good call. The replay official and the head coach of Oregon both acknowledge that it's a bad call.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Not if there's an equipment malfunction. I'd find it harder to believe that there are never any technical problems ever, 100% of the time.

    You need to investigate tinfoil hats while you're at it, or accept that football is sometimes imperfect.
     
  13. Anticope

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    Which is exactly the point of instant replay.
     
  14. percicles

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    This is just sad. Know OU wants to back out of its game with Washington and blames the refs for the loss at UCLA in 05. If this were mack brown he would be getting crucified by the national media. I doubt even the A&M fanbase would put up with this.


     
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  15. macalu

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    ok, so they had technical problems on both the onside kick AND the pass interference call? if not, then explain how they missed the tipped pass?
     
  16. gucci888

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    Seriously...now you want to change your schedule? Oh how the mighty have fallen.

    I understand complaining and talking about Saturday's loss, it was a bad call, the Pac10 acknowledged it, the refs acknowledged it, and they received their apologies. MOVE ON!!

    This reminds me of the kid who loses and says "fine...I'm taking my ball with me then."
     
  17. white lightning

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    If they are having technical problems on one play, is it that hard to believe that they are still having technical problems 2 plays later?
     
  18. gucci888

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    Also...I posted this earlier, I thought it was worth another look. Here is what the president of OU is asking from the Big 12 Commissioner:

    • First, seek an apology from the Pac-10 Conference for the gross errors in officiating.
    • Second, since institutions, players, and coaches are held responsible by conferences and the NCAA for their actions, those who officiate games should also be held responsible. At the very least, those found responsible for reviewing the offsides kick call and the interference call in the closing minutes of the game should be suspended from officiating for the rest of the season.
    • Third, it is my understanding that the Pac-10 Conference has a rule that they will only use Pac-10 officials at games with other conference institutions hosted by Pac-10 members. In light of what happened Saturday, the Big 12 should request that the Pac-10 change its rule to assure impartial officiating.
    • Fourth, the Big 12 should request that the game should not go into the record books as a win or loss by either team in light of the level of officiating mistakes.
    • Fifth, the Big 12 should place on the appropriate agendas of NCAA meetings and meetings of the conference commissioners a discussion of how the film review process should be implemented.

    If anything...OU should be thanking the NCAA for not properly punishing their athletics program for all the violations they have committed. OU has gotten nothing but a slap on the wrist from the NCAA.
     
  19. Angle02

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    Oh I can accept football being imperfect. I dont need your help with that. But when the officials come to the decision to let the game continue on when it should have been over....Thats not imperfect. Thats taking it to a whole new level. If we wanted to watch screw jobs on tv I think every single one of us would tune in to WWE every week.

    They were stating that they only had one view of the replay at the time. Thats a load of bull. The Pac 10 uses the same system that was set up by the NFL. They had the same views upstairs that we had on tv. I'm not saying any of this to defend the Sooners. I like to watch college football...I dont care which team is playing which, if I can catch it on tv I'll watch it. I dont want to see that happen to another team. I dont care if its the Longhorns, USC, or even smaller schools like Texas State or SFA.
     
  20. VesceySux

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    What utter bullsh*t. The college game and pros are LITTERED with bad calls that have changed the course of a game. And not just in football, either. I mean, c'mon, if Tom Brady's "tuck" held up against the Raiders, in a freaking playoff game, no less, so can this. OU, chalk it up to bad luck and move on to the next game. Pressing the issue makes you look no better than Mark Cuban, who's the gold standard in ref whining. Plus, pushing for revenge is likely to lose you all sympathy with ANY refs in the future, which can definitely become a handicap during games.
     

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