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Luther Head vs Kirk Snyder

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Chronz, Sep 17, 2006.

  1. solid

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    Snyder's history suggests that he may be another "Swift" type of experiment for the Rockets. There is no doubt that this team is due a streak of good luck. Two very competent coaches couldn't stand this guy. The hope is that he will find a "home" with the Rockets. Wouldn't that be a pleasant surprise. How bad do Houston sports fans need a pleasant surprise? Real bad. There should be a quota on disappointments after which you can't have any more, but there isn't.
     
  2. IC2000

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    Snyder is working hard and its obvious that he wants to learn and get better
     
  3. Toast

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    Both are bargain pricing, so that's not a pro or con for either.

    Snyder's a bit of a head case. BUT he also has better size.

    I really like his size. And think he can mature. So I'm sticking with Snyder.
     
  4. AXG

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    I like Head. :D
     
  5. Francis3422

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    IC2000- From your prior insider history, I am going to assume you have seen him at the TC

    What are we to expect from this guy. As far as his role, and what he can do. What do you think?
     
  6. ClutchCityReturns

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    You laugh at me and then make a post like this?

    In case you didn't notice, these were the two player's shooting %'s last season...

    Head: 40% FG, 36% 3FG, 70% FT
    Snyder: 45% FG, 36% 3FG, 74% FT

    Pretty hard to make an argument for Head, but I assume you'll try again. And saying that he's the best shooter on last year's team is like standing in a room filled with 3-year olds and claiming to be the tallest. It hardly means anything at all.

    And whoever said that Snyder's career highs were 15 pts and 3 assists or whatever, I want to know where you're getting that information. His real career highs are 28 points (same as Luther) and 12 assists.
     
  7. Rollazn

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    Wow the poll is really shocking. I would have thought Luther Head would win by a landslide. Turns out Synder is actually edging out Head at the moment.

    I guess we wait till training camp to see which one is going to help the Houston Rocket more. Luther Head can hit threes but Synder can actually play SG and defend.
     
  8. peedro33

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    well put....i voted for head...hes smaller but hes more of a jvg player...knows our system well already...i say the same poll be asked a couple weeks into the season after we witness what both do..now that we can actually compare who benefits the ROCKETS instead of who is actually the better player...cuz thats all im worried about..who fits rocket basketball the best....
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    Really? Did you take into account that Snyder is a second year player? Head shot .482 in November. An entire month of shooting is not a fluke, especially when he ended the season (without TMac) shooting .375 and .395 in March and April. He did hit the rookie wall in December, but as I said in my earlier post, if he merely splits the difference between his best month (.482) and his entire rookie season (.361, still not bad), he will shoot over 42% from distance.

    Head will be money from 3 point land this year, I would offer a $20 tipjar bet that he will shoot over 40% from there assuming Yao and TMac play 140 games between them.
     
  10. IC2000

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    Head hit a wall last year. I will bump this thread at the end of this season. Head will shoot much better than last season. I expect a big year from him.
     
  11. IC2000

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    I would be shocked if he doesn't shoot higher than 40%.
     
  12. GladiatoRowdy

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    I would be mildly surprised if he goes for less than 45% with a healthy Yao and TMac, but I am not sure enough about that over/under for a $20 tipjar bet. I would have to have odds on that one. ;)
     
  13. wnes

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    It was from Kirk Snyder's Bio on NBA.com, under "Career Highlights."

    The site seems to be poorly managed and some information is not up to date.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    Those are the career highlights in chronological order. Look at the bottom of the page for his personal bests.
     
  15. wnes

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    Obviously the web admin failed to update the info in the section right next to Snyder' picture. I think the poster who cited Snyder's 15-pts 3-asst "career highs" took the info from right there. I was merely trying to help ClutchCityReturns out.

    Don't shoot me, andy. :)
     
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    It's not a matter of who you want to keep. There is no reason for the Rockets to give away either of them. So the most likely thing is for the team to keep both, I think. The real question if what you can get in return for either of them. Given that Snyder was traded for chump change a couple months ago, it's unlikely Rockets are going to get anything for him unless he gets a chance to show he's better than he was last year. I don't know if there is a market for Luther Head out there, either... but there were all these draft day rumors involving Rockets giving Head to trade up with either Minny or Atlanta.
     
  17. ClutchCityReturns

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    Head hit a wall just like a lot of rookies hit a wall...I'd even say most. But you also have to consider that all players, rookies or not, go through shooting slumps. You don't magically become immune to them in your second year. A lot of players don't improve their shooting in their second year, even really good players like Kirk Hinrich, for example.

    In that sense, Snyder has shown me something that Luther hasn't. That he can improve his shooting from one season to the next. His 3pt shooting went up marginally and his overall FG% went up drastically.

    I have nothing against Luther and I'd love to see him in a Rockets uniform for a long time to come, but if I had to choose one or the other (which I don't, really) I would go with Snyder. Even if you think Luther is a better shooter, the difference wouldn't be substantial, and Snyder is by no means a bad shooter. He brings size, athleticism, and attitude...all things we desperately need.

    I don't think Luther will shoot 40%+ from 3, by the way. He'll likely get less minutes if we're healthy this year, and that could very well lower his % to begin with.

    There's really no reason to argue on hypotheticals though. Let's just remember to bump this thread in a few months and we'll see what's transpired.

    :)
     
  18. chris_Rocket

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    I voted for HEAD!
    He did very well last season and I have confidence in him to become a solid player for a Championship Team
     
  19. okierock

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    Head is Shorter.

    Snyder is taller.

    They haven't really played enough to distinguish themselves.

    Their stats are simular.

    Head is not a knuckle-Head.

    I like Head. :D

    Vote for Head.
     
  20. Williambleu

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    I voted for Snyder only for I don't want Head being off considering his contribution last season....
    Am I a bit emotional rather than... :rolleyes:
     

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