Israel says it was a tragic error responsible for UN killings

It was a pretty accurate "error".

 

I said to my friends when the Chinese embassy was bombed, look out for the wrong map "explanation" to be used by everyone in the future for similar occasions.

 

Ya, I am sure it was wrong mapping too. They only called the Israeli commanders who knows how many times asking them to stop before they took out the post. I got a great piece of property in the pacific ocean for anyone who belies this.

 

Oops, sorry doesn't mean much to the families of those killed.

 

Exactly.

 

You think the Chinese Embassy was bombed intentionally? Why? For what purpose?

 

To me, a single 4-year old map among hundreds of up-to-date maps, to be used in a modern war, where 4 precision rockets were fired towards a single building, is not a very credible story.

 

Ok, so you accuse the U.S. of intentionaly bombing the Chinese Ambassy in the former Yugoslavia?

Is that correct? Do you stand by that accusation?

Care to provide a motive?

 

It is not who accused whom. It is the explanation US gave was not credible.

It is like A shoots B four time in the head and A says "I was cleaning my pistol and it misfired 4 bullets".

The burden is on the wrongdoers to convince people they were not intentional. Neither US nor Isreal convinced people that.

 

I don't believe Isreal either. Of course, I also think we bombed the Chinese embassy on purpose. I don't know why we did, and I don't know if I have a good reason to think so -- but I think so.

 

There was suspicion in CIA circles that the Chinese were 'helping' Milosovic in some way, form, or fashion; the embassy bombing was more or less believed to have been a deliberate 'message' to the Chinese. Of course, that is all a 'theory' and can't be proven, which is the whole point here.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws001/theobserver01.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Kosovo/Story/0,2763,203214,00.html

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1766

 

But how can anyone be sure?

I mean, those who believe this was intentional....do you accpet the possibility you might be wrong?

Beliefs are a dangerous thing. Beliefs are the things that make Bush and Bin Laden who they are.

 

The thing is the explanation US gave was not credible. What is there to make people think that they might be wrong? NOTHING.

One outdated map out of hundreads of up to date maps, a mission carried out by F-117 (if I remember right), and 4 precision bombs on one regular buildings (back then precision bombs were more expensive than nowadays). All suggest that explanation was a lie. What else could it be?

I don't believe Clinton for a second thought Chinese would buy that explanation, nor do I believe Chinese bought that explanation for a second.

 

Don't confuse regular people with Bush. That is an insult to us.

I didn't believe Saddam had WMD around 2003, and I can see plenty of reasons why the intel Bush was selling might have been false. But he wasn't interested in varifying those intel because he wanted to wage a war on Saddam. Saddam made an attempt on his dad's life and he wants to revenge. Of course, arm dealers and oil companies were behind him too.

I didn't take those "Iraqi political refugess" serious for one single second. It was clear to me that they were saying anything to get themselves back to power. They were on paid by certain political groups to say certain things to justify the war. They were liers! And Bush knew they were liers and he used them.

 

So in your mind, the U.S. 100% intentionally bombed the Chinese Embassy. There's no possibility it was just a blunder?

Interesting.

 

I'm just saying there's a big difference between knowing and believing.

 

I am open to a credible explanation. If it comes, I will consider the possiblity of a blunder. So far, NOTHING has come.

 

Is there? You "know" things because you "believe" the information you receive.

You think you "know" things by reading congressional reports or CIA reports? They are full of lies. I trust my belief, based on hard evidence and sound logic, is closer to truth than what you "know".

 

Your reasoning is suspect.

Because there is no credible evidence - therefore guilt is assured? You are saying guilty until proven innocent which is the opposite of most western thinking...of course, you don't necessarily espouse that kind of thinking.

I for one don't know whether the Chinese Embassy was bombed intentionally or not. I don't know if Israel hit those positions intentionally or not.

I don't belief either way. I don't really know. All I have is my gut and reasoning...and it doesn't make sense in my opinion, so I doubt it.

So really, you're the one sticking yourself out there...claiming to know based on incomplete information.