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Would you lie and benefit the enemy, if your life were at stake.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major Malcontent, Sep 7, 2006.

  1. Major Malcontent

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    Honestly I would claim to convert to Islam...and say anti American things if a gun was pointed at my head. I think a lot of people who say differently are "armchair soldiers" who hold others to a ridiculous standard of conduct they, themselves wouldn't adhere to.
     
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    Since I have no training or discipline in being heroic, I doubt I would be one under those kind of circumstances. I'd probably rush into danger for loved ones, but for the camera? I doubt it.
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    And if we are already Muslim?
     
  4. ROXRAN

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    Say a crazy gun nut has a bushmaster pointed at your head...asking you to denouce your religion and proclaim Buddha as your savior?...God willing.

    ;)
     
  5. Ubiquitin

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    haha, well of course I would die for it. My belief in Islam is not superficial.
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    Good man.
     
  7. NewYorker

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    What if after you convert, they say, "Now you will go to heaven" and then they shoot you anywayz? Kinda sucks huh?
     
  8. ROXRAN

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    which enhances Azadre's reply...
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    What if I convert to Islam, but not say unAmerican things?

    Would a Muslim murder another Muslim in cold blood?
     
  10. geeimsobored

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    Seems to happen pretty regularly in Iraq
     
  11. Major Malcontent

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    Then I guess someone with a gun at your head tells you to convert to Christianity...
     
  12. DaDakota

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    I don't think God cares one stinking iota about religion....so feel free to say whatever you want, it is what is in your heart that matters.

    DD
     
  13. finalsbound

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    I agree.

    I would never denounce the name of jesus christ
    but i would denounce christianity.

    they're not nearly the same thing, in my opinion, and i hate religion more than anything.
     
  14. AntiSonic

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    If it was just a gun pointed at my head, then I wouldn't have a problem staying red and white and true. At least it would be over quickly.

    Now if they bust out the handsaw and go for the juglar, I'd be whimpering like a little b**** for Muhammad.
     
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    If somebody has a gun to my head, my life becomes much more important than any set of fleeting principles I cling to.
     
  16. GreenVegan76

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    Amen.

    God doesn't sit around with a notebook counting how many times you give Him a shout-out. He's not as vain as we are.
     
  17. Rashmon

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    "No b*stard ever won a war by dying for his country.
    He won it by making the other poor dumb b*stard die for his country."
    George S. Patton
     
  18. Saint Louis

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    Considering God, Jehovah and Allah are all sort of the same, would it be lying to say, "Yay Allah"?

    As far as Bush goes, I'd give him the middle finger and wouldn't be lying about it.
     
  19. arno_ed

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    Since I am a atheist, i would say wathever i have to to survive :D
     
  20. BenignDMD

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    I would say fu(k you Bush, fu(k you Bin Laden and the rest of your fundamentalist religious fanatics, then hope that Canada somehow rescued me.

    I just got through watching a Bin Laden documentary I finished watching on Nat. Geog. HD. They had a segment on Islamic schools in Pakistan that focused on young students, 5-6 year olds, memorizing upwards of 6,000 versus from the Quran. They do not study anything else. The absolute intolerance that Islamic fundamentalists have for non-Muslims, "infidels," baffles me. Its crazy how they can brainwash people into believing crap like that. IMO, Islam is the most strict religion to follow. There are guidelines and rules for everything. This, IMO, facilitates "kamikaze" like behavior among the uneducated. If all they know is their religion, then they can easily be persuaded, i.e. via extremely biased propaganda facilitated by Islamic law in the Middle East, to blindly follow their religion no matter what. This provides the fundamentalists a great opportunity to spread their beliefs and gather all the support they need.

    Anyways, back to the poll. I actually would not wait for the Canadians to get me. I would try to kill every damn terrorist that has me hostage. Not in the name of America, but in the hope that one day all this hatred (hatred between ALL people) would just disappear. But then again, I would never get to see it. I don't think I would survive very long in a situation like this!
     

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