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An arabic man wearing a T-shirt at JFK

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by littlefish_220, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. Rule0001

    Rule0001 Contributing Member

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    Shouldn't the private sector be able to do as they wish?
     
  2. jo mama

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    no, no, no and no.

    why would bush want to go after one of his buisness partners? carlyle group anyone?

    bin laden has never even been charged w/ 9/11. the fbi has him on their 10 most wanted list, but not for 9/11.

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
    "USAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, BIN LADEN IS A SUSPECT IN OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD."

    if bush wanted to catch his buisness associate bin laden, he could have done it a long time ago.

    as far as the t-shirt goes, just one more nail in the coffin for the america that we used to know and love.
     
  3. TracyMcCrazyeye

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    wow, arabic words on a t-shirt equates to "i am a robber?"
     
  4. Zion

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    An Arab wearing a turtleneck on a plane in the summer... very suspicious

    I think they should all be made to fly naked
     
  5. rhadamanthus

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    You are r****ded.
     
  6. Mr. Brightside

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    Very good marketing campaign from the maker of the t-shirt. I think I will order one in Hebrew.
     
  7. littlefish_220

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    Outragous arugment and poor analogy!
     
  8. AntiSonic

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    Thanks for your thought-provoking contribution.


    don grahamleone - great post. You are right, but I still don't feel sorry for this guy. Sure it's unfair that people are going to be suspicious of him just because of his race, but there's no need to fan the flames with what could easily be considered a confrontational shirt.

    I think a better analogy than walking into a bank with the "I am a robber" shirt would be walking down MLK with Confederate flag apparel. Sure, neither are TECHNICALY threatening, but it would be naive to expect no one to get offended.
     
  9. AntiSonic

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    EDIT: Change "considered" to "misinterpreted as."
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    I couldn't disagree more. When there is injustice and prejudice against someone, we should be confrontational about it, and shine a huge spotlight on it.

    His shirt wasn't anything even remotely threatening like the "I am a robber" is. If a shirt + a race equals security risk, then the terrorists are winning indeed. Fear, and suspicion are getting the better of people, and the fact that some even support it only makes matters worse.

    Until the airports, and society make sure reason prevails then we should be as confrontational, and noisy about it as possible.
     
  11. generalthade_03

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    Good post !
     
  12. ROXRAN

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    Suggestion REJECTED...

    That attack happened just 35 days after Clinton took office. He did not just accept defeat. He found those responsible, arrested them, tried them, and imprisoned them. Go to the prison cell where they are trapped today, and ask those responsible if Clinton just accepted defeat.

    OK, 35 days in... this happened, and what were his tactics to counter the danger of such reoccuring encounters and what was the effect thereafter? From 1993 to 1998...A lot of time to heal the world, no? Then why were al-Qaeda terrorists listening in a manner with bad getting worse rather than better? Huh?...The al-Qaeda terrorists were listening. In a 1998 interview, Osama bin Laden told ABC News reporter John Miller: "We have seen in the last decade the decline of the American government and the weakness of the American soldier who is ready to wage Cold Wars and unprepared to fight long wars.
     
  13. wnes

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    I don't know but I have to agree with those posters I usually don't agree with.

    The guy obviously wore the T-shirt to make some controversial political statement. This would be fine on streets, in parks, in front of the White House or the Capitol, any place whose safe operation wouldn't be compromised by such display and possible consequence resulting from it. I would be OK with him wearing the T-shirt in the airport. But once he is about to board the plane, he needs to have it changed or covered, since it's very likely to cause argument on the plane.

    No captain of any commercial airlines would want his passengers engage in fight, verbal or otherwise. There are places to voice your political opinion, a plane in the air is not one of them.

    We've been through enough since 9/11. Innocent people lost have lives because of the misunderstanding and overreaction of the airline security personnel. Flights have been diverted from their destinations because of perceived suspicious threats to the safty of the passengers or the planes.

    The last thing we need is to have more disturbance on airplanes.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Who cares what OBL said about the American govt. As I mentioned those that caused the attack were taken care of by our govt. Clinton went on to roll up Al Qaeda cells in more than 20 nations, helped thwart numerous attacks on the U.S. and U.S. embassies around the world.

    For frontpagemag to pretend like we did nothing after the attacks and just accepted defeat is a denial of the reality.
     
  15. ROXRAN

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    Good. To capture someone IN the United States is an incredible feat, I applaud Clinton that he caught the terrorists in that regard...But...
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    Don't get me wrong. I think it was sadly apparent that not enough was done. But to say he did nothing and accepted defeat, when he did more than any President before him, is just not accurate.
     
  17. ROXRAN

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    I disagree with those specific words, FB. I don't agree with every word you know...Just MUCH of it...

    I feel more accurately is he was indifferent to effective tactics regarding the dangers of terrorism...
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    He wore the shirt to get attention, mission accomplished.

    Now move on.

    DD
     
  19. rhadamanthus

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    It's a t-shirt douchebag. Not a gun, not a bomb, nothing but a piece of cloth with an incredibly american slogan. (said by an american nevertheless - what a shocker that must be for you - an american upholding american principles. Try not to wet your pants.)

    Your statement regarding "it's unfair but" is tantamount to "better him than me" -and as such, I stand by my original statement.
     
  20. AntiSonic

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    That's nice dear. Talk to me again when you can control yourself and not call people names.
     

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