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Guess who else is re-writing their history books....

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  1. NewYorker

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    China, what a shocker!?!?!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/w...&en=6ad0b40aa76be4c4&ei=5094&partner=homepage


    September 1, 2006
    Where’s Mao? Chinese Revise History Books
    By JOSEPH KAHN
    BEIJING, Aug. 31 — When high school students in Shanghai crack their history textbooks this fall they may be in for a surprise. The new standard world history text drops wars, dynasties and Communist revolutions in favor of colorful tutorials on economics, technology, social customs and globalization.

    Socialism has been reduced to a single, short chapter in the senior high school history course. Chinese Communism before the economic reform that began in 1979 is covered in a sentence. The text mentions Mao only once — in a chapter on etiquette.

    Nearly overnight the country’s most prosperous schools have shelved the Marxist template that had dominated standard history texts since the 1950’s. The changes passed high-level scrutiny, the authors say, and are part of a broader effort to promote a more stable, less violent view of Chinese history that serves today’s economic and political goals.

    Supporters say the overhaul enlivens mandatory history courses for junior and senior high school students and better prepares them for life in the real world. The old textbooks, not unlike the ruling Communist Party, changed relatively little in the last quarter-century of market-oriented economic reforms. They were glaringly out of sync with realities students face outside the classroom. But critics say the textbooks trade one political agenda for another.

    They do not so much rewrite history as diminish it. The one-party state, having largely abandoned its official ideology, prefers people to think more about the future than the past.

    The new text focuses on ideas and buzzwords that dominate the state-run media and official discourse: economic growth, innovation, foreign trade, political stability, respect for diverse cultures and social harmony.

    J. P. Morgan, Bill Gates, the New York Stock Exchange, the space shuttle and Japan’s bullet train are all highlighted. There is a lesson on how neckties became fashionable.

    The French and Bolshevik Revolutions, once seen as turning points in world history, now get far less attention. Mao, the Long March, colonial oppression of China and the Rape of Nanjing are taught only in a compressed history curriculum in junior high.

    “Our traditional version of history was focused on ideology and national identity,” said Zhu Xueqin, a historian at Shanghai University. “The new history is less ideological, and that suits the political goals of today.”

    The changes are at least initially limited to Shanghai. That elite urban region has leeway to alter its curriculum and textbooks, and in the past it has introduced advances that the central government has instructed the rest of the country to follow.

    But the textbooks have provoked a lively debate among historians ahead of their full-scale introduction in Shanghai in the fall term. Several Shanghai schools began using the texts experimentally in the last school year.

    Many scholars said they did not regret leaving behind the Marxist perspective in history courses. It is still taught in required classes on politics. But some criticized what they saw as an effort to minimize history altogether. Chinese and world history in junior high have been compressed into two years from three, while the single year in senior high devoted to history now focuses on cultures, ideas and civilizations.

    “The junior high textbook castrates history, while the senior high school textbook eliminates it entirely,” one Shanghai history teacher wrote in an online discussion. The teacher asked to remain anonymous because he was criticizing the education authorities.

    Zhou Chunsheng, a professor at Shanghai Normal University and one of the lead authors of the new textbook series, said his purpose was to rescue history from its traditional emphasis on leaders and wars and to make people and societies the central theme.

    “History does not belong to emperors or generals,” Mr. Zhou said in an interview. “It belongs to the people. It may take some time for others to accept this, naturally, but a similar process has long been under way in Europe and the United States.”

    Mr. Zhou said the new textbooks followed the ideas of the French historian Fernand Braudel. Mr. Braudel advocated including culture, religion, social customs, economics and ideology into a new “total history.” That approach has been popular in many Western countries for more than half a century.

    Mr. Braudel elevated history above the ideology of any nation. China has steadily moved away from its ruling ideology of Communism, but the Shanghai textbooks are the first to try examining it as a phenomenon rather than preaching it as the truth.

    Socialism is still referred to as having a “glorious future.” But the concept is reduced to one of 52 chapters in the senior high school text. Revolutionary socialism gets less emphasis than the Industrial Revolution and the information revolution.

    Students now study Mao — still officially revered as the founding father of modern China but no longer regularly promoted as an influence on policy — only in junior high. In the senior high school text, he is mentioned fleetingly as part of a lesson on the custom of lowering flags to half-staff at state funerals, like Mao’s in 1976.

    Deng Xiaoping, who began China’s market-oriented reforms, appears in the junior and senior high school versions, with emphasis on his economic vision.

    Gerald A. Postiglione, an associate professor of education at the University of Hong Kong, said mainland Chinese education authorities had searched for ways to make the school curriculum more relevant.

    “The emphasis is on producing innovative thinking and preparing students for a global discourse,” he said. “It is natural that they would ask whether a history textbook that talks so much about Chinese suffering during the colonial era is really creating the kind of sophisticated talent they want for today’s Shanghai.”

    That does not mean history and politics have been disentangled. Early this year a prominent Chinese historian, Yuan Weishi, wrote an essay that criticized Chinese textbooks for whitewashing the savagery of the Boxer Rebellion, the violent movement against foreigners in China at the beginning of the 20th century. He called for a more balanced analysis of what provoked foreign interventions at the time.

    In response, the popular newspaper supplement Freezing Point, which carried his essay, was temporarily shut down and its editors were fired. When it reopened, Freezing Point ran an essay that rebuked Mr. Yuan, a warning that many historical topics remained too delicate to discuss in the popular media.

    The Shanghai textbook revisions do not address many domestic and foreign concerns about the biased way Chinese schools teach recent history. Like the old textbooks, for example, the new ones play down historic errors or atrocities like the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution and the army crackdown on peaceful pro-democracy demonstrators in 1989.

    The junior high school textbook still uses boilerplate idioms to condemn Japan’s invasion of China in the 1930’s and includes little about Tokyo’s peaceful, democratic postwar development. It will do little to assuage Japanese concerns that Chinese imbibe hatred of Japan from a young age.

    Yet over all, the reduction in time spent studying history and the inclusion of new topics, like culture and technology, mean that the content of the core Chinese history course has contracted sharply.

    The new textbook leaves out some milestones of ancient history. Shanghai students will no longer learn that Qin Shihuang, who unified the country and became China’s first emperor, ordered a campaign to burn books and kill scholars, to wipe out intellectual resistance to his rule. The text bypasses well-known rebellions and coups that shook or toppled the Zhou, Sui, Tang and Ming dynasties.

    It does not mention the resistance by Han Chinese, the country’s dominant ethnic group, to Kublai Khan’s invasion and the founding of the Mongol-controlled Yuan dynasty. Wen Tianxiang, a Han Chinese prime minister who became the country’s most transcendent symbol of loyalty and patriotism when he refused to serve the Mongol invaders, is also left out.

    Some of those historic facts and personalities have been replaced with references to old customs and fashions, prompting some critics to say that history teaching has lost focus.

    “Would you rather students remember the design of ancient robes, or that the Qin dynasty unified China in 221 B.C.?” one high school teacher quipped in an online forum for history experts.

    Others speculated that the Shanghai textbooks reflected the political viewpoints of China’s top leaders, including Jiang Zemin, the former president and Communist Party chief, and his successor, Hu Jintao.

    Mr. Jiang’s “Three Represents” slogan aimed to broaden the Communist Party’s mandate and dilute its traditional emphasis on class struggle. Mr. Hu coined the phrase “harmonious society,” which analysts say aims to persuade people to build a stable, prosperous, unified China under one-party rule.

    The new textbooks de-emphasize dynastic change, peasant struggle, ethnic rivalry and war, some critics say, because the leadership does not want people thinking that such things matter a great deal. Officials prefer to create the impression that Chinese through the ages cared more about innovation, technology and trade relationships with the outside world.

    Mr. Zhou, the Shanghai scholar who helped write the textbooks, says the new history does present a more harmonious image of China’s past. But he says the alterations “do not come from someone’s political slogan,” but rather reflect a sea change in thinking about what students need to know.

    “The government has a big role in approving textbooks,” he said. “But the goal of our work is not politics. It is to make the study of history more mainstream and prepare our students for a new era.”



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  2. nappdog

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    Damn, you gotta get off China's nuts. You're all over them like white on rice.
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    And is no doubt an important reason why western education is so miserable.

    Multiculturalism/culturism - ugh.
     
  4. Sishir Chang

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    I think its a good idea too deemphasize Marxist ideology but I would disagree with deemphasizing China's conflicted past. Anyway this still doesn't justify what Japan is doing.
     
  5. wnes

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    So I guess China is acting more like a world player now? That's a shock.
     
  6. real_egal

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    I agree that history should be more focused on historical events, rather than some obsession with those emporers. However, I don't think culture, economie, and civilization contradict with wars and all the other dark sides. Everything should be presented, instead of "taught". When I was in high school, once you decided to go with technology or science in the future, you were no longer obligated or allowed to take history classes. Now, they are reducing it even more in junior high.

    There was a survey quite a while ago. Among a group of junior high students, only a very few knew about Mao, but nobody heard of Zhou Enlai or Liu Shaoqi, everyone knows Bill Gates. Something is wrong with that picture. Moreover, I think many of them only know that Gates is the richest person in the world, but don't know that he gave up most of his fortune to a good cause.

    Of course, the thread title is kind of misleading to poke fun into the shrine visit thread. I still don't get it why there is any fun part in that. Anyways, I still think the more attention and discussion, the more information can be shared. Can we mark this week as official cluthfans D&D China week? I believe we all owe a thankyou to New Yorker, with that in mind, I would like to play along with the game he proposed. Maybe, afterall, he IS an ethnic Chinese as well.
     
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  7. Master Baiter

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    It isn't like the history taught here in the US isn't full of pro-US propaganda. Our government tries to brainwash our citizens just like China is trying to do. Who are we to judge?
     
  8. wnes

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    On a more serious note, PRC is going from one extreme to another. In my opinion, no historical world events of milestone significance should be overlooked, whether they are political, economical, technological, religious in nature, or whether they make your country/people/history look more favorable or unfavorable in world's (others') opinion. The leaders in these events should also be given appropriate amount of spotlight.

    I agree with the views in the article that PRC is doing this in the interest of pursuing near-long term stability over seeking confrontations abroard and struggles from within. That should be music to ear to many of the China doubters. Clearly, this is in stark contrast to the more prevailing perception that China is still clinging to its past. Of course NewYorker the perpetual whoring idiot, by posting this article, is actually undermining his own China threat agenda.
     
  9. KaiSeR SoZe

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    not really suprising
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    What is up with the name calling?

    Anyway, I think the article wasn't meant as anything other than to say that like Japan, China is rewriting their textbooks.
     
  11. wnes

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    Where is it in the article that either expresses or implies PRC is revising history textbook "like Japan"?
     
  12. Master Baiter

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    I like Chinese Food. Especially the Hibatchi Grill stuff and Pho Noodle Soup.
     
  13. thegary

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    HANK: So, are you Chinese or Japanese?
    KAHN: I live in California last twenty years, but first come from Laos.
    HANK: Huh?
    KAHN: Laos. We Laotian.
    BILL: The ocean? What ocean?
    KAHN: We are Laotian. From Laos, stupid! It's a landlocked country in Southeast Asia. It's between Vietnam and Thailand, okay? Population 4.7 million.
    HANK: So, are you Chinese or Japanese?
     
  14. real_egal

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    That's hilarious. :D
     
  15. Saint Louis

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    Since re-writing history is the new "in" thing, I have some revisions to make: UH didn't lose to NC State in the NCAA Championship game, the Oilers didn't blow a 32 point lead in less the half of football in Buffalo, the Astros didn't get swept and lose the World Series, Hakeem retired a Rocket, Jeff Bagwell's should is fine, the U.S. won the Korean War, the U.S. won the Vietnam War, George W. Bush is really a compassionate person, the rich care about the poor in America and elections really aren't stolen in America.
     
  16. Master Baiter

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    I would have tried to do my ex wife in the ass more.
     
  17. MadMax

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    the texans are actually the oilers because the oilers never left. bud adams sold his franchise to bob mcnair, who promptly changed the team name and colors. bud currently resides at the corner of Fire and Brimstone.
     
  18. michecon

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    As if this is a bad thing judging from the thread title. :D

    Thuthfully, I think it's generally in the right direction. I don't think it's too helpful to force students to memorize which emperor did what, like they did in the past. However, I do think each period should be represented. I don't want to judge just from an article of which the writing sometimes got me confused.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    I didn't say the article implied it. I said I believed that New Yorker was implying it.

    The article shows they are revising their textbooks. Japan also revised theirs. In that since they are doing it like Japan.
     
  20. rblh

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    What were they smoking! They might as well leave history out of their school curriculum all together. I don’t think these idiots understand why they need to study history in the first place. All countries should teach their students both the good & bad so that they continue the good and not to repeat the same old mistakes.
     

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