If you bothered reading the entire thread, I've said several times. The Phil Jackson thing is to remind that Le$ has screwed up the head coach's position in the last four years not once, but twice, and there is a good chance he will do so a third time.
Especially if he brings back rudy or brings in Ellie. Man you argue that JVG is a bad coach but you just can't come up with anything better can you? Still waiting for you to address the selfishness in the nba that JVG despises and the lack of good decision making and strong jump shooting players....who sure can dunk!
First off, I never called Mister Van Gundy "bad." Average to slightly above, "grade B-," yes, but that "bad" is "D" or "F." He is only "bad" when you compare his record to that of his predecessor. Better choices? Already have given you two. I'm sorry if you don't like the choices, but there they are. Experience with an infinitely better track record than Mr. Van Gundy, or rookie with new ideas forged through championship victory as a player. It also helps that both are Rockets, and don't go crying to the media that they wanna go home to New York because it's "too hot, and I can't breathe in Houston." Don't like those? Here's a third. Larry Brown is still available. He may leave, but at least he has a record as a winner. As far as the "selfishness [...] and lack of good decision making," you are simply wrong. There are players with that attitude, particularly ones fresh out of high school, but there have *always* been players like that. Olajuwon was self-centered and wanted to dunk every opportunity his first few years. He grew up. Will Steve Francis and Stephen Marbury? Perhaps, perhaps not. Squelching natural talent in favor of a rigid "system," and forcing square pegs into round holes is simply pig-headedness.
Not what I said... I simply believe that Yao Ming might've gotten to this point sooner, or been a step beyond (if he is possible of it) were he coached by a staff who did not spend at least a full season trying to turn him into Patrick Ewing, Jr.
You tell me why players that come into Mister Van Gundy's "system" consistently have their scoring numbers reduced... "Square Peg," meet "Round Hole," meet "mallet."
so yaos have gone up every year and you are what complaining. yaos have gone upmore percentage wise from year to year than olajuwons. what staff would have gotten him to play better? and patrick ewing jr. plays for georgetwon...patrick ewing coaches for the rockets....i know facts mean little to edc because he states things unequivocally as fact when often times hes wrong. oh well...
IF IT WASN"T FOR JVG, RUDY and FRANCIS would have been stunting Yao's growth. 1. Rudy wouldn't have had the balls to tell Francis that Yao is a better scoring option for the team. (Relying on the concept that shooting 2ft. shots are better than 20 ft.) 2. Francis couldn't pass a kidney stone if he tried. (He would rather jack up unadvised shots or help Cat to get his first.) GOD BLESS JVG for making the right decision to get a guy who will defer to Yao when its the smart decision. AS for Elie, IMO a rookie coach is a bad decision for a team with two superstars who are well into their careers. Larry Brown? Wanted him at the time but I'm staying pat with JVG because Larry wanted too many primadonnas who would definitely stunt the growth of Yao.
I hope you enjoy becoming a Knicks fan when Mister Van Gundy takes his stale act back to that organization sometime in the next twelve months. You clearly are either a fan of the little guy, or a bandwagon jumper. Olajuwon didn't win until his head coach was Tomjanovich. Tomjanovich used his talent to the best of their ability. IMHO, Mister Van Gundy and Patrick Ewing's handling of Yao Ming would rate C to C-. About average, perhaps a bit less so. Let me get this straight. You do not believe any coach, anywhere on the planet could've gotten Yao Ming to "get it" one day sooner than he has under Mister Van Gundy?
rudy coached him 13 points 49 percent and now 22 on 52 percent...you cant see the progress...if thats a c or c- what would an a look like....29 at 60 percent. lets just say van gundy at his second stop was far superior to rudys when he left the lakers on their way to the lottery...his 5th straight lottery appearance. you are on the war path after one lottery appearance by van gundy...what about 5 straight by your guy...or two straight by elie?
and how long did it take in years for olajuwon to get it? try to be honest edc unless you are related to rudy and in that case i understand your blind loyality.
and on your caption add rudys last five years as well....5 straight lotterys...van gundy deserved better when he inherited such a mess left behind by your guy...or family member...i cant decide which you are
...considering Olajuwon was in the Finals his second year in the league. Incidentally, you didn't answer the question. Do you believe there is not one coach anywhere in the world who could've sped up Yao Ming's development by one day?
DENNIS maybeTex Winter could have...but not Phil Jackson without Tex Winter. I'M NOT SURE why I'm all of a sudden a bandwagoner for sticking up for a coach that endured an awful season....and HEELLLLLLL YESSSSSSS I am a fan of the guy who got us back to the playoffs! CORRECTION Rudy didn't win anything without DREAM. RUDY used his talent to the best of their ability until he coached after DREAM and in LA.....Wait couldn't your sentence before read..... JVG used his talent to the best of their ability...when he had a selfish PG{playoffs) JVG used his talent to the best of their ability...when he had tired legs and no starting PF(playoffs) JVG used his talent to the best of their ability....when injuries depleted his 4 out of 5 of his starters.(NO playoffs...but of course one JVG no playoffs=6 Rudy seasons) CD worked with Dream 10 seasons before Dream could carry a team, you waited 10 years for Dream, why can't you for YAO? Double standard just like the rest of the NBA and their refs....let me guess you wanted Jay Williams or Caron Butler or Stoudamire who gets hurt more than Yao.
Now it has turned to "anybody is better than JVG" as they would have acheived that one extra day in Yao's development. I say go start your own team. Talk about stale acts...
Mr. Van Gundy never won anything, period. Mr. Van Gundy's teams have tired legs because he chooses to bring in 29-year olds instead of 22-year olds. mid-forties regular season victories is mid-forties regular season victories is mid-forties regular season victories. You also never answered. Are you going to chase after Mr. Van Gundy when he's gone from here, or are the Rockets "your team?" I can keep this going as long as you want to, but I really wish you'd just stop. Your guy is an average NBA head coach. The Rockets deserve better, especially with someone who WANTS to be here. end of story.
That was *always* the question. Was Yao developed most effeciently in this system, or is there somebody who could've gotten him further by now, or to this point earlier. I also never said "anybody is better than Mr. Van Gundy." A grade of C- indicates he is slightly below the mean. I think Yao Ming would've developed more slowly or not be to where he is right now under a dozen coaches who are currently in the NBA.
